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Even as the dust of Labor's rejection of a plebicite is still in the air, the chatterati are demanding that Turnbull stop the dragging out (caused by Labor) of the question, and have a parliamentary vote.

These people suffer from democracy deficit disorder. Labor went to the election with the idea of an undemocratic (in my view) way of going doing things; they lost the election. The Coalition promised a democratic plebicite to decide the matter; they won the election. Surely this means something!

But no, Labor and some Australians, believe that government has to dance to the opposition tune. How daft! How totalitarian! These types believe that mere, unreliable for many reasons, opinion polls support their case, but the same people are terrified of a democratic plebicite.

The time for opinions on the rights and wrongs off SSM has gone. It's a real bore, full of ridiculous claims and counter claims. A democratic vote on any change to the very important and respected Marriage Act is the only way to go. Too important for a couple of hundred would-be dictators in Canberra to decide. The Coalition must stick by its election promise, not bend to a hostile election-loosing arrogant rabble. If they don't, the chances of a Coalition win in the foreseeable future are zero, even with a decent PM instead of the current one. Plebicite or nothing should be the slogan of a man fond of slogans. If people want a government to break a promise, then they can put Labor back 3 years hence.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 4:04:24 PM
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HAHAHAHA
After all the promises the liars party have broken in the past 3 years you have got a lot of gall to come here and spout about them keeping promises.
Pot-kettle mean anything to you mate?
Posted by mikk, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 5:14:26 PM
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No, ttbn, the plebiscite was an attempt to drag the issue out and possibly prevent same-sex marriage ever becoming a reality.

<<… the chatterati are demanding that Turnbull stop the dragging out (caused by Labor) …>>

A parliamentary vote could still be quicker. This argument doesn’t work.

<<These people suffer from democracy deficit disorder.>>

Anyone still going on about democracy has either been cryogenically frozen for the last year or so, or they’re deliberately ignoring the arguments against a plebiscite. I don’t even have to repeat them here.

<<Labor went to the election with the idea of an undemocratic (in my view) way of going doing things …>>

I don’t see you complaining about all the other things they decide for us.

<<The Coalition promised a democratic plebicite to decide the matter; they won the election. Surely this means something!>>

Yes, it means that the coalition needed to delay the issue and wipe their hands clean of the result if the ‘Yes’ vote succeeded. Or are you actually suggesting that the number-one issue on most people’s minds at the ballot box was whether or not they could vote on this issue?

<<These types believe that mere, unreliable for many reasons, opinion polls support their case, but the same people are terrified of a democratic plebicite.>>

Do they? You learn something new every day.

If the consistent opinion polls are so unreliable and easy to fudge, then why don’t the ‘No’ camp just fudge their own polls?

<<A democratic vote on any change to the very important and respected Marriage Act is the only way to go.>>

For what reasons? And how do they negate the arguments against a plebiscite? You need to expand on this.

<<If people want a government to break a promise, then they can put Labor back 3 years hence.>>

This is a bit rich. Last count I saw had the Coalition at 86 broken promises just before Abbott was dropped as leader. Yet the Coalition faithful still thought that quoting, “There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead”, was a nifty comeback.
Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 6:52:59 PM
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We hve just lost Ford, nd some who have lost their jobs have been there for 50+ years and this is all that seems to consume the time of our politicians.

To all the queers out there, find a word, move on, and stop wasting our time and money.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 7:24:02 PM
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Rechtub,

Yes. It's hard to take the jokers in Canberra seriously. They are 'too busy' to deal with freedom of speech (18C). They are doing nothing about the debt. Thay are not doing very much at all, except to pander to, and fuss about, an extremely small minority of people with faulty wiring - people who don't believe in democracy; people who don't think that 98% of the population should have say as to whether or not the Marriage Act is changed. They and their useful idiots believe that is OK for the tail to wag the dog. SSM by political tyranny was one of the many reasons that the ALP vote was the lowest ever. Modern day Labor is not comfortable with democracy.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 8:13:12 PM
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That's the way, ttbn. When you have no answers, just dig your heels in and repeat the same assertions.
Posted by AJ Philips, Thursday, 13 October 2016 7:42:32 AM
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