…Continued

Like a climate change denier, you have staked-out your position in advance and are wading through the data employing confirmation bias as you go.

<<Are you saying that America does not have hundreds if not thousands of powerful individuals who will stop at nothing to create, the new American Century.>>

No, but I am saying that it is exceedingly unlikely that enough would be perfectly positioned to pull off a stunt like this without having to advertise and recruit.

<<The problem … is that you won’t read anything that is on a “conspiracy” site and thus has no merit.>>

Yes, because I’ve read it all before and have not yet seen a claim that stands up to even the most cursory scrutiny. They’re also unsurprisingly light on the referencing. The very fact that these sites exist, and that these people who run them are still alive, despite what they claim the government will do to those who blow the whistle on the whole operation, discredits their claim.

The irony here is always lost on conspiracy theorists.

<<The twin towers are only a part of the issues around 9/11...>>

I know. I’m embarrassed to say that I did get into all the 9/11 conspiracy rubbish. Luckily it only lasted a few months, but it felt thrilling for that short period of time to think that I possessed some special knowledge that separated me from all the “sheep” out there. My excuse is that I was still de-converting from Christianity and was no longer sure of who I was because of the void it left.

Thanks, by the way. I was trying to avoid revealing that. I shudder every time I think about it. It’s mortifying.

<<You have still not explained [insert a lot of claims here]…>>

Google them. I did and there was no end of results debunking each one.

<<…I don't believe you are interested in testing your theory.>>

I don’t have a “theory” any more than you have a “theory” regarding your rejection of our reptilian politicians. My position, as always, is one of scientific scepticism.

A J Philips
Same as before you tell me to go looking on the net for the answers to my questions,I want to hear your explanation, because it is you I am debating.You seem to think because I challenge the official findings of the 9/11 commission, I believe every other conspiracy that is out there.

Any other thoughts I have regarding Elvis or lizard men are irrelevant to this post.

I have to say that you are starting to sound like a religious zealot who's job it to convert people like me from my corrupted thinking.

As I doubt any one else is still following this thread it is all rather pointless.

So I will close now by just saying if you are not convinced that 9/11 was an inside job it is OK I don't mind. I am comfortable in my own view.

Chris

LEFTY ONE,
Here's a bit of background on 'Home Run'
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/WTCDEMO/wot/home_run.htm
This page says the 767's that hit the WTC weighed 420,000lbs.

Reptilians now?

It’s like I said before, Lefty One.

<<Same as before you tell me to go looking on the net for the answers to my questions,I want to hear your explanation, because it is you I am debating.>>

“You want me to paraphrase it all?! Why would I do that when it’s already fully accessible from somewhere else that doesn’t have a 350-word-limit?” (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=7439#229568)

Really, though. What is the point in getting me to paraphrase it all, if not to overwhelm me or to limit what I can argue through the word and posting limits of this forum?

This is like the On the Spot fallacy, or a sort of reverse Gish Gallop.

<<You seem to think because I challenge the official findings of the 9/11 commission, I believe every other conspiracy that is out there.>>

No, on the contrary, I had assumed, for the sake of argument, that you rejected the one about shape-shifting reptilian politicians.

There is, however, the phenomenon known as ‘crank magnetism’, whereby if one buys into one form of quackery, then they are likely buy into other forms of quackery. For example, try finding an anti-GMO campaigner who vaccinates their children. They exist, but they can be hard to come by.

<<Any other thoughts I have regarding Elvis or lizard men are irrelevant to this post.>>

I used the reptilian conspiracy theory to give you a sense of how inaccurate your portrayal of my scepticism was. It was relevant to the extent that it differentiated between scepticism and denial.

<<I have to say that you are starting to sound like a religious zealot…>>

I’m sure it feels that way to you, yes. But no, I just enjoy discussions involving scientific scepticism.

<<As I doubt any one else is still following this thread...>>

Oh, you’d be surprised. I had a discussion go for eight months once, only to find towards the end of it (when they piped up) that a lot of people were still tuning in.

Anyway, aren’t you having enough fun to not worry about whether others are watching? Don’t worry about what others do.

Armchair Critic
Thanks for that, it is yet another piece of back ground info.

I am not sure about this AJ person, I am guessing he/she thinks they can convert me.

Chris

AJ Philips
I have a life outside this forum, so will not be responding to you anymore on this thread. I suggest you take up gardening it will help you get out of the house.

Chris