Sorry, I forgot to take the 'www' out of that link I shortened.
Here's the correct link for '9/11 Trillions: Follow The Money'
http://youtu.be/n3xgjxJwedA

Armchair Critic,

The first plane was going 790 km/h, and the second was going 950 km/h. However, even at 463 km/h, I hardly think the plane would crumple up on the side of the building - steel beams or no steel beams. But if one is determined to believe that it’s a government cover up, then one need only convince oneself that the government has lied about that too. It’s a fact-proof mindset.

Anyway, I still don’t understand the point of this part of the conspiracy theories. We saw planes hit the buildings. Are conspiracy theorists suggesting that the beams were weakened at those precise points beforehand? With no-one noticing?

Regarding Hillary Clinton’s health, she could be in a hospital bed and doped-up on morphine for her entire presidency and her ability to lead and make decisions would still be better than Trump’s:

NEW YORK—Saying it was completely exhausted and overwhelmed by its strenuous workload, Donald Trump’s prefrontal cortex admitted Thursday it was simply unable to filter through the torrent of impulsive comments coming from the rest of the presidential candidate’s brain. “I’m just completely inundated with erratic thoughts and knee-jerk reactions from all sides—there’s no way I can possibly screen everything that’s being produced in here,” said the higher-order structure of Trump’s brain responsible for impulse control and long-term planning, adding that the number of hastily formed ideas it was expected to evaluate and cull before they reached the speech motor cortex had been increasing steadily over the past year. “Sometimes, four or five different instinctive urges will try to get through all at once, and it’s just impossible to stop every one of them. I keep thinking they’ll eventually peter out, but there doesn’t seem to be an end in sight. I’ve been doing this for 70 years—I’m just drained.” Trump’s prefrontal cortex admitted that it could use significant help from the neural circuits in the angular gyrus and posterior cingulate that are tasked with moral decision-making, but noted that the ineffectual structures had stopped functioning years ago.

http://www.theonion.com/article/trumps-prefrontal-cortex-admits-it-cant-possibly-f-53502

Armchair Critic, loudmouth, and AJ Philips

First I will try to type calmer words in future, and I have no wish stop the opinions of others. I do get a bit ticked off when some posters tell me to” move on” when I know what I am talking about is true as I have been questioning it for years. It is especially difficult with this subject as has turned so much of the world into a much scarier place to live in.

I have viewed one of the videos, and there is a whole lot on there I was not aware of, so thank you for that.

However I will sit this one out as I don’t think I have anything more that is useful to add to what I have already said, except this.

Yes a plane is more than an aluminum tube as you say. The engines for instance I would have thought, would have sheared off and dropped to the ground.

It is hard to believe, that all those who were involved have kept shtoom all these years. However I find it even harder to believe that someone not in control of the system, could have shut down the entire air defense of the USA for a couple of hours, by sending all the aircraft to other parts of the country at the same time. My guess is they all understand that if any of them put their hand up to speak out, some very nasty things would happen to them and their families. We are, if people like Armchair Critic and I are correct, dealing with some very scary psychopaths, who have shown they have no problem killing to effect the required outcome.
Chris

Lefty One,

At the speed they were doing, the engines would have penetrated the buildings like bullets.

<<The engines for instance I would have thought, would have sheared off and dropped to the ground.>>

For them to suddenly lose, in an instant, the momentum they would have had at that speed and simply drop to the ground (despite being attached to the planes’ wings too, mind you) defies physics.

I still don’t understand what this proves, though. Is the claim that they would have had to have built special building-penetrating planes? There’s more people who’d have to be kept quiet: the builders of such planes. This gets more and more implausible all the time.

<<… I find it even harder to believe that someone not in control of the system, could have shut down the entire air defense of the USA for a couple of hours, by sending all the aircraft to other parts of the country at the same time.>>

What makes you think someone did that? Conspiracy sites? Only fourteen planes were on standby throughout the whole country (because, let’s face it, it’s not every day the US is attacked on its own soil), and none of them were close to the scenes. But I have seen no evidence that the whole country’s air defence was simultaneously re-located.

The idea that those hundreds, if not thousands, have all kept quiet because of threats is utterly implausible. There are many ways to blow the whistle with total anonymity. Yet no deathbed confessions, no leaked documents. Nothing. The penalty for leaking Cabinet documents is imprisonment and yet it happens all the time.

It also seems utterly implausible that the guys who sit in dark, smokey rooms watching re-runs of JFK being shot from the grassy knoll on their 8mm projector - the ones who would benefit from all this - just happened to all be psychopaths. Hundreds of them. All psychopaths.

To think that a Western government could callously murder 3000 of its own people just to start a war, I think, demonstrates a disturbing level of cynicism and paranoia.

AJ Philips

Ok so let’s assume you are right and the engines are behaving like bullets in wtc2, which the plane entered across a corner, why did they not exit the building on the other side?

I don’t think the building was compromised in any way to accommodate the events of 9/11.

However it is amazing how on that very day NORAD were carrying out 5 different exorcises, simulating the very thing that was happening in in NY, thus causing confusion in the US air defense operators. Also up until June 2001,NORAD had the ability to scramble fighter itself, this was changed ,so Chaney was the only one who could authorize it.

You obviously don’t want to believe people can be scared into silence, I and many other disagree based on our research.

Are you saying that America does not have hundreds if not thousands of powerful individuals who will stop at nothing to create, the new American Century. For the required lifting of defense spending to occur, there had to be an enemy to fight. So I believe 9/11 was planned to create an enemy to go to war with.

The problem I see with our back and forth is that you won’t read anything that is on a “conspiracy” site and thus has no merit. So I do understand why you never see any evidence there was a cover-up.

The twin towers are only a part of the issues around 9/11 that have never been explained properly.

You have still not explained why tower 7 came down, or why they never found much of the other two panes, or how an FBI agent found the passport of a highjacker on the ground by the twin towers, or how the passengers made cell phone calls from flight 93, when that was not technically possible at cruising altitude at that time.

I could go on for another couple of pages , but what is the point.

So let’s just agree to differ, as I don't believe you are interested in testing your theory.

There’s probably two reasons for that, Lefty One.

<<Ok so let’s assume you are right and the engines are behaving like bullets in wtc2, which the plane entered across a corner, why did they not exit the building on the other side?>>

Firstly, they were attached to a plane. Secondly, there was building in the way. Bullets don’t always exit what they hit. It was also a figure of speech. I’d doubt the speed, velocity, and mass of the engines was identical to that of a bullet.

<<I don’t think the building was compromised in any way to accommodate the events of 9/11.>>

So what’s the point of the ‘aluminium tube’ argument then?

<<However it is amazing how on that very day NORAD…>>

Yes, all very co-incidental, but is that actually the truth or are these just the claims of some conspiracy theorists on their dodgy websites?

<<You obviously don’t want to believe people can be scared into silence…>>

I do believe people can be scared into silence. I’m just not cynical enough about the courage or goodwill of humankind to think that not one of the hundreds or thousands of people, who would have to have knowledge of the conspiracy, would blow the whistle on it given how easy it would be. Nor am I confident enough in humankind to think that that many people could all go this long without letting anything slip.

It’s not about what I want to believe either. It’s about what’s plausible. And I believe I’ve given sufficient reason to doubt the plausibility of your claim. I even cited a study suggesting a similar level of implausibility.

I “don’t want to believe” that people can be scared into silence as much as you “don’t want to believe” that our politicians are all really shape-shifting reptilians from the planet Alpha Draconis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilians

[You don’t believe that, do you?]

<<…I and many other disagree based on our research.>>

Your research seems very selective given that you were not even aware that light/weak objects could pass through some surprisingly strong objects given enough speed.

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