Hi Paul,

Yes, and I'm hanging out for the stats for last year and it's driving me nuts. From the few figures that I've found, it seems that the great majority of Maori university students, and graduates, are women, like here. But perhaps the gap is closing over here, at 1-2 % p.a.

Education yes, and we should expect maybe no miracles - we can leave them to Hollywood - just solid results. But most certainly, some bright sparks should be putting their minds to work right now trying to plot how those young people in places like Don Dale can be turned away from lives that end up in Berrimah, Long Bay, Wacol, etc.

for those who really do need it, can they be put through literacy courses ? Finish it and there's a year off your sentence.

Can they be induced to learn trades, with reductions in their sentences as incentives ? Given time, perhaps some may be able to go on to university courses, with sentence reductions as incentives.

But more realistically, maybe there should be a focus on very basic skills. Surely they shouldn't be coming out just as useless as they went in ?

Of course, IF their parents had been doing their job at the other end of the process, it wouldn't be quite so necessary. Water under the bridge.

I worked in the meat works at Otahuhu (Westfield) forty five years ago, and lived in Ponsonby, it was a great place back then.

Cheers,

Joe

The voters of the Northern Territory passed judgement on the one term incompetent Country Liberal Government, last weekend. Unlike their dysfunctional federal colleagues who scraped back in by the skin of their teeth, there was no such luck for the useless Adam Giles and his motley crew, they copped an 18% swing.
No doubt the disgusting treatment of juveniles by the CLP government in the territory was a major factor in the landslide Labor win.

Paul1405,

So you and Greens are saying that the taxpayer-funded $1.3billion leftist publicity machine that is the ABC was successful in toppling a government with its shock-horror spin of old news?

I reckon there is some truth in that too.

However, the poor performance of all CLP members and internal division, no effective teamwork, saw the CLP defeated.

Speaking about internal division, Greens leader Di Natale has moved against the rude and objectionable SHY, leaving that 'human headline' 'unhappy' and critical of her leader. More fuel for the Easter Bloc to light fires everywhere. The parallel between the Greens and the Democrats is obvious.

The left gravy train would be rockin' in Darwin, eh what? Bye, bye Budget!

Hi Paul,

As OTB says, there may be something in what you suggest. But NT people are not that all that unsophisticated: what the ABC portrayed happened some years ago, staff have been stood down, and the Don Dale Centre was closed a couple of years ago, and people know that.

And there have been so many other scandals and upsets wracking the Giles government that it was bound to fall. If anything, Bill Leak's cartoon was closer to the mark than anything the ABC would have the courage to explore.

And yes, OTB, SHY and the Eastern Bloc have come out of this election divided from the Deeper Greens: perhaps watermelons and zucchinis don't mix. Although the classes that they rely on (there's the Marxist coming out), the comfortable professionals and frustrated students, have grown over the last fifteen years, we can observe that their probable destiny is to follow the Democrats into the wilderness.

That should keep this thread going a bit longer.

Cheers,

Joe

Paul,

It appears that SHY was fired for being too extreme, which takes a lot in the fringe parties. The CLP proved to be just as inept as labor and the people have voted to swap scandal for fiscal incompetence.

It is looking increasingly as though the Queensland and Victoria labor parties will be one term wonders as well.

What we have here folks, is a few of the forums more rabid right members trying to put spin and deflection onto what was a disastrous result for conservatism in Australia. It is pathetic to watch as the three amigos try furiously to bail out their sinking ship, with a tea strainer!

Beach as usual tries to deflect to his trusty old chestnut "The Greens". Beach, a news flash for you, Sarah Hanson-Young didn't contest the NT elections. She got reelected to the Senate last month.

Talk about dumping, Giles was another Abbott, but the conservatives in the NT were a bit slow on the draw, the hot sum you know, and failed to dump the useless log when they had the chance.

Joe, the CLP can't tie their shoelaces without falling over, One term governments are their specialty, look at that other fly by nutter in Queensland Campbell Newman, lasted five minutes! Beach as a supporter of these short term lunatic governments what is your spin to explain the disasters?

Shadow ditto for you.

Fellas I'd like to say "better luck next time!", but I can't.