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Shaking Hands

Muslim schoolboys who refused to shake hands with their female teacher will face a steep fine. This is the latest turn in a controversial matter that started last April in a Swiss school, when two Muslim boys refused to shake hands with their (female) teacher, because that would go against the Koranís teachings. The boys argued that Islam forbids men to have physical contact with a woman outside of the family unit.

Had it been Japanese boys who did not want to shake their Swiss teacher's hand, I doubt anyone ever would have heard about it, to say nothing of it culminating in a new fine for not shaking one's teacher's hand. It is because they were Muslim boys that it became an issue, which means that it is precisely an example of xenophobia and anti-Muslim hostility.

Switzerland is not a bubble of innocent provincial people. They are well connected to the global discussion on the "Muslim problem." There is no way that the discussion inside Switzerland about what to do with two adolescent Muslim boys who want to avoid touching females, was not always already part of this global discussion.

West must learn to respect and tolerate those who are different. You have failed to respect and tolerate Black community, who speaks your language, share your culture and faith. English, Irish, Welsh and Scott hate each other, sharing the same culture, faith and language. It is difficult for you to accept, respect and tolerate Muslims with different culture, languages and FAITH. You have no choice but to accept them for your own survival.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
Posted by Iftikhar, Tuesday, 26 July 2016 7:41:11 AM
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Muslim schoolboys told to shake hands with female teacher or face £3,500 fine in Switzerland

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/muslim-schoolboys-told-to-shake-hands-with-female-teacher-or-face-3500-fine-in-switzerland-a7049446.html

Also Iftikhar, was this your article by chance?
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2002/may/22/publicvoices1
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:18:33 AM
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'You have no choice but to accept them for your own survival. '
Is that suppose to be a threat Iftikhar?
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:25:38 AM
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Dear Iftikhar,

Nobody should ever be forced to shake hands with anybody else, whatever be their reasons.

Period.

So far so good - thank you for alerting us about the evils of Swiss society.

However, once you begin to threaten others' "own survival" you have gone beyond the pale and it would be right for those others to forcibly stop you in self-defence.

Nobody is required to accept you - all you deserve is for others not to intrude on your life - so long as you do not intrude on theirs.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:28:07 AM
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"You have no choice but to accept them for your own survival."

Maybe there are more important things than survival. 'We' value things that 'you' do not. Human values like freedom of speech, equal rights, freedom of association, respect for women, freedom to choose who one lives with, democracy. Islam does not respect these values.

Most people would rather die than live in a society where such things are not valued. A life without those things would be a dreadful life. It would not be life at all. Muslims lead a dreadful life because they have no values worth dying for. The only thing they want is to make the west as miserable as they are. The west is a constant mirror held up to them which shows how unhappy and deprived of the joys of living that they really are. Everywhere they look they see reminders of the poverty of their lives and they are desperately trying to eradicate those reminders in societies to which they migrate.

They may be successful one day. They may rule the world but they will be still Muslims and still miserable.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:42:40 AM
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The fact that some (?) Muslim males refuse to shake hands with a woman displays how Islam cannot cope with modernity. And the reason Islam is on the wane (something the Muslims themselves know, but most Westererners do not) is because the it will never be able to cope with modernity according to the word of Allah, which is inchangeable, non-negotiable.

The hand shaking is neither here nor there. The real problem lies in more serious things like Muslim terrorism. When a culture senses that there end is near, they have nothing to lose, and would rather die than adapt. Politicians scratching their heads and asking why, oh why after atrocities in France and elsewhere, have their answer right there. And with the petty things like hand shaking. Islam has failed miserably in all things modern, and there is no changing the fact.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 27 July 2016 12:46:06 PM
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