Just watched a Youtube video.
Requiem of the American dream by Noam Chomsky.
I recommend all the LIB LAB voters should view this video.

Toni, $5 to see a doctor is not unreasonable, besides, many of these people smoke, so if they can find the money for smokes, they can see a doctor.

I would even be happy to see say four free yearly visits per child, but seriously, anyone who thinks we can continue to provide free everything forever just does not get the big picture.

As for working for the dole, the very first change I would make would be to cancel all 457 visa trolley collecting contracts and replace them with work for the dole, with a no show, no dough approach.

This would give the unemployed a purpose, it would save Wollies and Coles a fortune and it would even save on education of these 457'ers who don't speak English. A win win.

Hey Rehctub,
Thanks for your comment (and everyone elses).

A problem I foresee regarding free quotas is that someone with a really sick kid will say its unfair for them compared to someone who's kids only need to go a few times a year.
So it will get all 'tit for tatty' until they're all screwing the system again, that is supposing we fixed it.
Even if we fixed the system politicians would probably unfix it trying to buy votes somehow in future elections...

I think a cost equal to subsidised medicine is fair, and if they don't want to pay that they should go to the public hospital.
The problem here is that I've just shifted the problem to emergency which isn't fair on peoples waiting times who genuinely are there for emergencies, though they do prioritise.
It's better all around if people go to their own GP.
Not sure that many places do bulk billing anymore though.

You're right about them mostly having money for everything else though.

I understand your point about trolleys being the type of job that work for the dole people could and should be doing, but I can't go along with it because Coles and Woolies and the shopping centres are private companies.

If we let them have WFTD labour every business will want WFTD labour and then they wont give people proper jobs, and I wouldn't go along with government essentially labour hiring out unemployed either.
It wouldn't be right for the government to profit directly from under award wage workers working for private companies, though it would be ok if they are providing unemployed people with new options whilst saving the government money on expenditure.

My grief with Coles and Woolies is they profit from welfare so they have an moral obligation to give Australians jobs.

No disagreement on cancelling the 457 visa's though.
I heard they hire them (457's) in lesser paid job positions whilst making them do the work of a higher paid position under the lower paid job title.
No idea how this works for trolleys though...

Media panel programs rambling on about politicians and headlined politics like everything is real is the same as religious indoctrinates going on about god's words printed in a bible. The more religious: ministers; priests; perceived experts go on about god's words, placing key words into sentences; god; Jesus; forgiving sins, etc. the more people whom take notice, feeling righteous, subconsciously remembering key words, believe in feeling their righteous subconscious memories, acknowledging truth in repeated key words, feeling confident in understanding the feel good factor, begin to believe, reinforcing beliefs, bring attention to simple words as a concept: the afterlife; god; Jesus; etc. Too much attention towards what feels righteous fools the self, in believing little more than mere words.
Too much time spent listening to the same simple concept words, feels convincing as words are made conscious aware with all confident feelings of understanding what words mean. The more words are said the more words become true.

Media's constant perceived important news: scandals; wars; presidential speeches, statements. Allowing journalists opportunities to make comments about leaders stated shallow concepts, to reinforce democracy government in action, the more democracy word concepts are stated the more democracy becomes true.

Point being that people believe democracy is real because people take notice, willingly or not.
Even people who hate politics, may believe in voting for a particular political party.

What I strongly suggest to political listeners, stop listening. Politics are making and or keeping people dumb, much the same ideas used in religion to keep people dumb.
Many people are so shallow in wanting to understand little more than key words and heard before phrases, in need of entertainment turn to sports, listening to ball movement statements, watching balls move around on fields.

Political Journalists are not saying anything conclusively worthwhile. Journalists keep the conversation going, Journalists are not providing informed worthwhile opinions, instead to show problems exist, much the same as religions focus listeners attention on events happening in society, leading to bible predictions of some end of time event, leaving devoted listeners, listening to hear more, feeling god will save them.

Within politics, party leader names take the place of god and Jesus. The afterlife is future jobs and growth statements. Words: parliament; house names; governor general; prime minister; leader of the opposition; speaker of the house. Place words together in sentences and listeners hear government in process. After an election, electronic counting adds to believing in democracy.

Try listening to Sunday morning religious programs. Simple stories translated into something meaningful to listeners who feel as though they're understanding. Mix in: god; Jesus; sin; end of time... listeners feel intelligent. Ask religious believers to explain something, explainers are clueless, explainers barely able to formulate sentences, without guiding listeners to selections of bible paragraphs.

Reading this website forum readings, I believe many posters are absolutely clueless. Opinion forum posters ask more questions than posing credible opinions. In postings I have read, I don't believe posters are formulating anything credible out of all postings. Readers are not learning any wise formulations considered by myself to be worthwhile remembering.

As school education is about single word concepts leading absolutely nowhere, dictionary word interpretations are broad and abstract. Analysing Shakespearean murder stories punished curios intelligence, not to enjoy correctly analysing new ideas.
How... many school educated young adults can be heard calling each other bro. Putting words together to express more complex ideas, leading to complex concepts, fails to happen.

When I say school leavers are difficult to train, that usually means school leavers are clueless at understanding a process of one idea after another idea, leading to tasks final outcomes.

What I sometimes read are attempts to come out with an opinion, attempts become lost in clueless expressions.

Like politics and religion, listeners and readers are listening to and looking for similar opinions to match their own. Opinions that support their easily understood subconscious concepts. People seeking conformation rather than seeking increased abilities to understand more complex concepts. The feel good factor to feel understandingly intelligent while not wanting to know any more dominates the psychology of being alive.

Focusing on media journalists for relevant information is a waste of effort. Leadership worshiping distraction from real worthwhile information, politicians introducing specific criteria, journalists focused speculation on who said what to whom, journalists making few statements on what will be done to solve any unresolved issues are quickly avoided, moving on to a different topic, and or no solution can be found. Yet... politicians did stop the boats. Don't forget global warming climate change.

Far away events that go on forever, often rise up in the media, fading away soon after.

Resent British inquiry report into 2003 Iraqi invasion, 13 years later, past leaders entering media forums to comment on how invading Iraq was correct at the time. Embarrassing themselves by expressing that no weapons of mass destruction were found. Yet at the time 2003 when no weapons of mass destruction existed. The many countries involved in the invasion, soldiers stayed in Iraq for many years.

It does not matter whether politicians are seen as clueless and stupid non responsive, similar to voters avoid feeling themselves to be clueless and stupid. Politicians embarrassing exposures provide visual evidence acting democracy transparency. Retired politicians Anecdotally providing evidence of true democracies, I say, democracies voting for one of two parties are lies, that both parties don't care which party is in government? Separation between parties, faking performances are not a concept emotional decision making people want to feel, not because they care about democracies, because people don't want to feel they have been incorrect in their beliefs, easily fooled similar to fooling aged 5 year old children.
There are many people who don't want to hear about politics, I assume for the same inconclusive problem solutions reasons I am stating.

Aged 5 year old child intelligence people believing in religious indoctrinates whom are acting as though they're speaking to and or on behalf of a magical god. Whether information is religion or politics the feelings are mutual.