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Sustainable Government and Work for the Dole 2.0

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AC,

I'm amazed you haven't addressed any of steve's posts.

They seem right up your alley.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 9:59:36 PM
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Hey Is Mise..
I doubt my topic would get much interest and thats ok, I just wanted to get the idea out of my mind.
Its been niggling at me and annoying me and I'm not even sure its a good idea.
With the talk of privitising Medicare (even though it was probably just spin) a question does arise in whether we want to cannibalise the system or strengthen it.
I just don't know what else this country is going to do to save from getting further down the drain.
I'm sure plently of other commenters have ideas in which the country could save money or do better, this is just one I've been thinking about.

Hey Toni,
Are you calling me a space cadet I wonder... Lol
Yeah I didn't exactly know what to do with steve101's comments.
But I did watch a small clip of the Juno flight approaching Jupiter last night.
Off topic, but pretty amazing what NASA's done I suppose.

- And sorry everyone about the link that I forgot to fix before posting and mistakes in spelling / grammar.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 8:58:29 AM
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Part 3

My idea isn't necessary about punishing people who don't find work, but to stop them falling between the cracks in the first place.

I feel as though we aren't using technology as well as what we could be, and its no wonder the young are dissillusioned.
They've grown up with Facebook, Apps, Mobile Phones and Tablets all their lives yet we are still somewhat alien to what we've created.
We have all this technology, but we really havent figured out how best to employ it.
We need to make sure technology empowers us not imprisons us.

Think about todays apps and what they can do.
We've mastered the concept of making addictive games with micro-pay where the game player gets rewarded with achievements and items.
We've figured out how to make extremely realistic simulation games.

Why not employ these tools into teaching people real skills?
You have all these people sitting around playing pointless games when they could be learning skills on the exact same tablet instead?
Why not reward school kids who excel in one area with the right to learn a new skill?
Unlocking skills, like in a game? Badges, Trophy's, achievements?

Why not have apps, with training simulations and video tutorials for everything? jobs, trades, tasks, vehicles, machinery etc.
Why not create a system that gives people FAST SKILLS and the knowledge they need to not fall between the cracks, cheaply?

On another note how many youngsters don't get a good start in life simply because they find it hard to get up their 100 hours for a license?
Maybe their single mum doesn't own a car.
It sometimes seems as though we're making it harder for people to succeed and become productive.

So that's basically my whole spiel...
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 9:10:26 AM
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//On another note how many youngsters don't get a good start in life simply because they find it hard to get up their 100 hours for a license?
Maybe their single mum doesn't own a car.
It sometimes seems as though we're making it harder for people to succeed and become productive.//

For once I find myself in complete agreement, AC. The 100 hours requirement for licenses is a farce, as is the way driving is taught in Australia.

Employers unreasonable attitudes toward the importance of driving licenses don't really help. A lot of employers will not even look at an application if you don't drive, even if there's no driving required for the job and good public transport to and from and work.

Unfortunately, good public transport is often not an option. It's something that Australia does remarkably badly.

Given the over-importance employers attach to driving licenses and the woeful state of public transport in Australia, driving should be regarded as an essential skill that should be taught to ALL young people.

But all too often, disadvantage and other confounding factors get in the way. Parents that don't have cars, or can't drive themselves, or that are simply too time poor to teach their kids, that can't afford the significant expense of professional driving lessons (and they are not cheap), leave their kids at a disadvantage.

Driving instruction should be taken out of the hands of parents and incorporated into the school curriculum. It could take the place of the weekly school sports afternoon, a pointless and unproductive waste of school time if ever there was one. Everybody could graduate from high school with a HSC and a drivers license, giving them greater equality of opportunity.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 10:05:00 AM
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Teenagers having gone through and having many teenagers passed HSC examinations. I state, teenagers have had their thinking ability to easily learn employment skills, sabotaged.
For the same reason insurance companies see under aged 25 years teens and adults as high risk insurance liabilities, under aged 25 year olds: drinking too much alcohol; driving motor vehicles too fast above speed limits; smoking marijuana; taking illegal drugs; 100 hours driving experience before obtaining drivers license; poor concentration behaviours; easily distracted behaviours.

I say, school leaving teenagers are difficult to train. My assumed reasons are why school leaving teenagers are difficult to train, is that once teenagers go through traumatic to memories training experiences, attend government certified paid training, holding memories to perform limited tasks, having spent several years on low paying apprenticeship wages, teenagers young adults are more likely not to want to more themselves up the skilled employment ladder and or start a business of their own, becoming independent from establishment employers.

The real idea of schooling, is to slow employment wealth progress rather than provide usable thinking skills to innovate progress. School students child-intelligent brains taught/conditioned to remember what students are told as true unproven easy to understand simple facts.
Badly educated humans easily believe anecdotal repetitive quick no need to think statements from media presented establishment. Market melt down lies.

Spending time on low income CentreLink unemployment incomes looking for employment, punishes ideas of not wanting to do boring physically exhausting work. Eventually putting up with what work is provided.

Establishments guided societies don't need all the labour on offer to service wage earned supply of money, giving value to money.
Because societies real owned business employers don't need all the employee labour on offer, employers can see the most ineffective difficult to train, choice of employees, not bothering to hire them.
Establishment owned pretend owner proprietor business employers can pick poor skilled thinkers, spending the time to allow limited training to perform limited tasks employees needing to be remembered.

What was once done by convict labourers, are now done by badly school educated Neanderthal zombie labours.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 1:11:57 PM
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If by obtaining HSC high scores, showing how school education had not entirely destroyed students brain's ability to remember information, moving into higher education university. Learners will become specialised in their choice of studying. People who sound highly educated intelligent, are in my opinion, limit conversation to what they understand.
Dispute as I often do using arguments which oppose media limited knowledge anecdotal statements. In my experience, school educated peoples ability to argue in defence of their beliefs, shows the true shallow ignorance of many school curriculum educated people.

My theory is that working for the Dole is unacceptable in that school education intentionally held probable good thinking intelligence and quick to understand, holding memories on what had been understood to guide the self through employment careers, instead of probable good intelligence abilities, intelligence was degraded, guided to allowing many media presented lies to be believed. Allowing an establishment jobs for the boys and girls to enjoy a low stress life.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 1:14:54 PM
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