I wonder how the young people of the UK feel about
their future today, and how long will it take
before Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland
decide to vote independent?

Presumably they would feel exactly as they did when they voted for independence. Empowered and free.

Optimistic that things can only improve with Brits exercising and being responsible for their own choices.

But why discount the obvious rational basis for their decision? Can't voters be trusted with decisions? Are voters, especially the young not to be trusted and they need someone else to make their decisions for them?

Maybe that is part of what they were objecting to. Decisions being limited and made for them and without consultation.

Next?

I liked this quote, from Tim Blair's blog.

"Under Merkel, Germany gained a million welfare recipients and encouraged the UK to leave the EU".

There is some talk about having a referendum on leaving the UN.

The socialists are not a happy lot today. Bloody whingers!

Just came across this interesting article courtesy of a friend. Written days before the vote, but lays the case out pretty strongly. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/12/brexit-vote-is-about-the-supremacy-of-parliament-and-nothing-els/

Dear Graham,

I spend a bit of time on reddit whose demographic really doesn't reflect mine but it tends to give me a younger persons perspective that is hard to find elsewhere. Besides which it is a place I go for most of my international news.

The perspective of younger UK votes is one of shock and dismay. They have embraced a more global world and see the Brexit as a victory for the 45 plus crowd. There is a sense that the older demographic lived through the security of the welfare state and the benefits common market but are drawing up the drawbridge behind them.

It is reflected in what we are seeing in this country. The generation who were the beneficiaries of free education, a pension scheme and affordable housing now want less taxes, over inflated Super schemes and negative gearing and lower CGT to remain.

I see the Brexit as less about xenophobia and more about a generation not wanting to share with migrants, refugees or the younger generation.

This is not something to celebrate but rather just another sign of the malaise of selfishness and greed, both corporate and individual.

It is both sobering and sad. At least Bill, to a degree, recognises it for what it is. As a baby boomer I am really starting to appreciate the resentment directed toward us.

Now would not be a good time to buy a house in Brussels. With so much less money the EU is going to have to sack huge numbers of bureaucrats.

Seeing as how the EU has become a bureaucrat paradise, being of the bureaucrat, by the bureaucrat & for only the bureaucrat, it is going to be wonderful to watch.

Only a radical lefty, leaning towards communism could really believe that the EU ever did anything good for the UK. It has long been a creature of France & Germany, applying retribution to them, for being so successful in war & peace for so many centuries.

Now England will not be shipping boatloads of money to Brussels, they need to get rid of the hugely costly Scotland, or at least shovelling train loads of money north.

England can be strong again, but will need pretty pragmatic hard headed leadership to get there.

So will we, & we have no way of getting it, for a long time if we don't apply the brexit formula here, & chuck the current unelected prime minister into the garbage bin of history.