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Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 26 June 2016 12:43:34 PM
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Toni Lavis " Gibraltar also voted to remain - about 95%. The Spanish are talking about co-sovereignty. Seems that it might be more than just the EU which is going to shrink."
It's not just China which is expanding, the flight decks of Great England are calculated at 3.5 to 4.5 acres each which indicates a casual approach to maths. "The HMS Queen Elizabeth will be used by all three sectors of the UK Armed Forces and will provide eight acres of sovereign territory which can be deployed around the world. " ( that means the QE Class including POW ....which is not a very reassuring name for the military). Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 26 June 2016 1:31:23 PM
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*Where is your considered analysis of UK prospects in light of the vote to exit the EU without a cogent economic plan?*
I guess the British will sign a free trade agreement with the EU, just like Switzerland or Norway. German industry is certainly pushing for it, as they need Britain as a customer of their goods. If the Eurocrats refuse, "to teach those British a lesson" they can be accused of blackmail, because the British public don't want to dance to the Brussels political tune. Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 26 June 2016 8:45:13 PM
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Yabby,
"I guess the British will sign a free trade agreement with the EU, just like Switzerland or Norway...." Oh right... "During the interview, Mr Hannan was forced to agree that if an independent UK negotiated a trade deal with the EU, similar to that of Norway, they would have to accept workers from other European countries." "Newsnight presenter Even Davis accused a top Brexit campaigner of misleading the public after he admitted leaving the EU may not cut immigration. Evan Davies told MEP Daniel Hannan his admission Britain would still have to accept the free movement of labour was “completely at odds with what the public think they’ve just voted for." At one point the exasperated presenter held his head in his hands, before saying: "I’m sorry we’ve just been through three months of agony on the issue of immigration. “The public have been led to believe that what they have voted for is an end to free movement.” "Mr Davies said: "Why didn’t you say this in the campaign? "Why didn’t you say in the campaign that you were wanting a scheme where we have free movement of labour?" http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/newsnights-evan-davis-loses-brexit-8281875#ICID=sharebar_twitter Posted by Poirot, Monday, 27 June 2016 7:55:19 AM
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Poirot, there is a stand off going on about this very fact in Switzerland, where the Swiss have defied the EU blackmailers. We shall see next year how it ends. Fact is that around Europe people are sick of being invaded by so called refugees and others and want some control of their borders, so the Eurocrats might just have to concede defeat. Economic blackmail should not be acceptable and eventually people power is the best way to defeat it.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 27 June 2016 8:14:15 AM
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Yabby,
My main point on this thread has been incredulity that there appears to be no significant plan for Brexit. Now we find out that the simple folk who were led by the nose to vote pretty much solely on immigration were fulsomely mislead. These folk presumably would make up a sizeable percentage of the UK residents who were furiously googling "What is the EU" in the hours after they voted to leave it. So far the men who headed the Brexit campaign have spent the post-referendum period attempting to reverse out of their pre-referendum spiel. The satirical theme appears to be that Britain should just pretend it never happened - and the rest of us will all go along with it...a la George on Seinfeld when he lost his job. Posted by Poirot, Monday, 27 June 2016 9:02:13 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jun/25/view-wales-town-showered-eu-cash-votes-leave-ebbw-vale?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+AUS+v1+-+AUS+morning+mail+callout&utm_term=179158&subid=14650382&CMP=ema_632
One wonders if the voting age across the UK has been secretly dropped to ten years. Still, democracy says 52 % voted to exit, a majority. Everybody has to cop it sweet. Including the people of Ebbw Vale.
Joe