P,

"The Brexit figureheads had no plan besides exploiting populist fears and dismissing experts who rubbished their thinking"

Sounds just like Shorten.

Loudmouth,

"Maybe I can't interpret a simple map in a newspaper but it seemed to me that Cornwall voted to Remain - in fact, western England right up into Wiltshire. So London, Cornwall, Scotland and northern Ireland (and the Isle of Man) voted to remain."

Nope...

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/24/europe/eu-referendum-britain-divided/

Poirot
Okay, just what I expected. Assumptions that everyone gets richer from government handouts, and vitriolic bitter dog-in-the-manger ad hominem from sore losers in big government openly despising the idea that the public should have any say.

All
Notice that the remain camp depends entirely on the idea that people get free handouts? And notice they never actually account in any rational sense for this idea? There is no concept that these benefits are being taken from society in the first place, strained through two huge coercive bureaucracies, and then a fraction either given back to the people it was taken from, or to someone else? All we ever get is this fantasy-land where "you" (subject/peasant) are better off under this regime without any rational account, or ability to give a rational account, at any stage.

Thanks, Jardine - goldfish socialism, yes, that sums up 150 years of socialist history :)

IF Scotland (and even Northern Ireland and/or Cornwall) vote to leave the UK, here are two or three reflections:

* the Labour vote in what remains of Britain will drastically shrink without Scottish etc. voters. The Conservatives, under Johnson or whoever, will rule for decades.

* In the Brexit-voting areas, if we subtract Scotland etc., the actual vote for Brexit must have been closer to 60 %. How did native-born, and older migrants, vote ? Perhaps 70 % or more for Brexit ?

* Given the Scottish contribution to Britain's intellectual and political life over the past couple of hundred years, the UK gene pool will shrink appreciably without Scotland, as English people are forced to rely on their own limited intellectual resources to run their affairs. If Wales stays with England, that might buy them some time.

Joe

//London, Cornwall, Scotland and northern Ireland (and the Isle of Man) voted to remain.//

Turns out that as a Crown Dependency, the Isle of Man did not get to vote in the referendum.

Gibraltar also voted to remain - about 95%. The Spanish are talking about co-sovereignty.

Seems that it might be more than just the EU which is going to shrink.

Thanks, Poirot, you're right, I was using an outdated map. I should have done my homework:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36616028

Every single major region of England and Wales voted to Brexit, except London. Every other one. Amazing.

So here's another irony: if England and Wales are left to go it alone, what remains of United Kingdom will be ruled from London, which voted to Remain - and all of it ruled by a Conservative government, whose leaders voted to Remain, for the foreseeable future.

So how long can that last ?

Joe