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Will the past come back to haunt labor.

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So David, we currently have around 150,000 homeless in Australia.

Do you think they are less deserving of your help than those from over populated countries whos one aim in life is to breed, despite knowing full well there is insufficient to go around.

Im sorry to break this to you at your age David, but your generosity is actually doing more harm than good, because you are giving these who have nothing, false hope by encouraging them to continue breeding.

Even the animal kingdom is smarter than that, but put the likes of kangaroos into a controlled environment, where there is food and water on tap, and they will multiply three fold.

This is essentially what you are doing, while at the same time ignoring your own needy.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 16 June 2016 6:10:15 AM
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david f,

rehctub posts this:

"So David, we currently have around 150,000 homeless in Australia.

Do you think they are less deserving of your help than those from over populated countries whos one aim in life is to breed, despite knowing full well there is insufficient to go around."

And this:

"This is essentially what you are doing, while at the same time ignoring your own needy."

I'd just like to point out that from past experience of rehctub's attitude to "our own needy" - he doesn't appear to give a hoot about them and is quite merciless in his views toward anyone in that position.

He's like a character out of Dickens.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 16 June 2016 8:12:01 AM
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Thank you, Poirot. I feel like giving rehctub the Dickens. His statement about overgenerous welfare reminds me of:

“At this festive season of the year, Mr. Scrooge,” said the gentleman, taking up a pen, “it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.”

“Are there no prisons?” asked Scrooge.

“Plenty of prisons,” said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

“And the Union workhouses?” demanded Scrooge. “Are they still in operation?”

“They are. Still,” returned the gentleman, “I wish I could say they were not.”

“The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?” said Scrooge.

“Both very busy, sir.”

“Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,” said Scrooge. “I’m very glad to hear it.”

“Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,” returned the gentleman, “a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?”

“Nothing!” Scrooge replied.

“You wish to be anonymous?”

“I wish to be left alone,” said Scrooge. “Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don’t make merry myself at Christmas and I can’t afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned—they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.”

“Many can’t go there; and many would rather die.”

“If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 16 June 2016 9:12:47 AM
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david f,

Perfect.....
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 16 June 2016 10:09:51 AM
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Dear rehctub,

You have used the expression ‘our own’ many times. However, I get the feeling that you really don’t care about anybody but yourself. I get the feeling that you are a hard-hearted, selfish person. I hope my feeling is wrong, and you are not as mean as you sound. Possibly you have a sense of beauty and some feeling that can be brought out by a poem.

John Donne (22 January 1572 – 31 March 1631) was an English poet and a cleric in the Church of England. He had the same feeling as I have about who is ‘our own’.

For whom the bell tolls a poem by John Donne

No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
Therefore, send not to know
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee
Posted by david f, Thursday, 16 June 2016 10:33:16 AM
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Actually, David, during my time as a small business owner, risk taker and employer, I have donated in excess of half a million dollars, all to worthwhile local causes, but not one red cent to the likes of those charities who's salaries are number one priority.

I will always lend a hand to anyone less fortunate who is willing to have a go, but not a red cent to anyone who is in it for the free ride. note I said 'hand' not 'hand out', as there is a huge difference.

So David, I respectfully ask you how is your water argument going, or do the free loaders you want to support in their tens of thousands not require water?

We either have a water shortage, or we don't. So which is it David?

Poirot, try and stay original, you don't need to team up with anyone else, unless of cause they can provide you with the real figures you seem reluctant to provide yourself. I guess I can't blame you, because I would be hesitant if I had to justify my rant, having labors record as my benchmark.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 16 June 2016 11:32:13 AM
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