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Will the past come back to haunt labor.

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Dear Yuyutsu,

You wrote: “Allow ordinary Australians to compassionately vote with our own purses how many refugees we accept.”

It requires more than money to bring in refugees it requires organisation. We could also say, “Allow ordinary Australians to vote with our own purses how much military we need.”

Who would collect the money? Who would organise an army, navy and air force? Would you do it?

Government does things that we can’t do as individuals. At one time the anarchist philosophy was very attractive to me. When I was much younger I thought government was an unnecessary burden on us that we could do without. We could organise things ourselves. In October I will be 91 and my wife will be 80 years old. I don’t want to organise transport for refugees or join the army (They wouldn't take me.). Actually my wife volunteered with the Refugee Council of Australia to teach refugees English so she has committed time, effort and skills to help refugees. We depend on government to organise some things such as the military and bringing in refugees. They use our taxes to do these things. That’s the way it works. Money isn't enough
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 4:51:37 AM
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Dear David, the world you live has moved on my friend, as for every single non contributing person we bring in, one of our own misses out.

Besides, in your own words, we don't have the water. So which is it, do we have the water, or don't we. You cant be half pregnant here David, either immigration is sustainable, or it's not.

Back on to water, do you think it is wise to wash the dog in 'A' class treated drinking water?

Our homes should be plumbed to recycled water and we should either boil that for drinking, or buy drinking water.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 6:54:22 AM
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"Our homes should be plumbed to recycled water and we should either boil that for drinking, or buy drinking water."

That is really something, rehctub!

One of my favourite assignments at uni was on the sanitary revolution around the turn of the 19th & 20th centuries. My study was mainly of London and the improvements made at that time. It was surprisingly fascinating.

You obviously have no idea of types of disease spread through dodgy water.

"I'll have a white with two sugars and a dash of typhoid - there's a good man"

So recycled water that one has to boil is very bad bad bad idea.

Guess who'd be the first outraged butcher who would jump up and down at the govt paying for all the hospital bills of those sickened by ingesting waterborne nasties - where people neglected to treat their recycled water or didn't do it properly.

It's an area where we defeated disease with science and innovation.

Bottled water is the biggest con ever - a modern fancy - that is really only useful for bringing aid to places whose water supply has failed or been poisoned...like the city of Flint in the US where authorities changed water supplies and neglected maintenance that leached lead into the water.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 7:46:46 AM
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It’s strange to think that idea about recycled water came from someone that handles meat. Or maybe we are thinking about the wrong sort of meat.
What ever way it is I would not be in favor of drinking or any thing else done with recycled water.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 8:34:46 AM
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Dear rehctub,

You wrote: "the world you live has moved on my friend, as for every single non contributing person we bring in, one of our own misses out."

The world you live in is a very narrow one. Who is 'one of our own'? We humans are one species. Every human that lives is one of my own. Unfortunately we don't always get along with 'one of our own'. Nevertheless we are all kin.

Davi
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 9:10:08 AM
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Ok David, so let's cut to the chase.

You say you want all these refugees to be welcome with open arms. So tell me, how do you propose we cater for them.

Our health system is not coping, and there appears no money to fix it. Same goes for education.

We don't have the funds for a state of the art NBN, although I doubt we actually need one, rather, let those who do need it, pay for it, because as it stands many who benefit from it will be to download movies quicker, or play more/better online games.

By all means take it to the node (not sure of spelling) then allows those who want, pay to have it connected.

Now while that's a bit off track, it highlights the simple fact that we ant care for our own needs, let alone freeloaders, and whether you like it or not, many who come will be just that.

We are approaching a revolution in this country, where those who pay the taxes will reach boiling point as like myself, we've had a gut full of our taxes being pissed against the wall so as to speak. And of cause, if you make way for a great life for these unfortunate folk, birth control will be the last thing on their minds.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 15 June 2016 2:05:04 PM
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