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Work For The Dole

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Has anyone been made to do this? As much as I find what I am involved in for WFTD it really is a complete waste of time. I am working on a historical project for something that isn't going to do anything. I am also in the middle of setting up a new business and really need the pittance paid by centrelink until I can actually pay myself. I am working towards getting off the dole but am thwarted due to the time constraints on this meaningless govt stuff up. If if there was a job at the end of it then it would be a good thing. I have people here with no clue what to do so just sit around all day just to comply.
There needs to be more research into this. There are three like me that are starting their own business. You know what? Pay us our centrelink, let us build our business and then bye bye centrelink. Instead we are wasting our time doing a nothing project just to comply. What utter bollocks.
Posted by Jonthebass, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 10:54:42 AM
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I agree. But how come you're not on NEIS?
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 11:50:24 AM
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Disgusting indeed, but then many of us have jobs that aren't doing any good for anyone, perhaps with the exception of their boss's ego.

Dependence on money for survival and the anxiety that comes with it have done far too much damage and encouraged many useless if not even harmful and unethical jobs.

The dole should be unconditional, except for the obvious condition that the recipient truly has no other income.

Even if there be a few abusers, it is better to give them that meagre sum because the majority of us are good in nature and tend to help others in so many informal ways that do not involve money.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 1:12:57 PM
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I've done work for the dole before, (I'll admit it) and I agree with you.

It IS a complete waste of time, a totally mismanaged resource, a policy managed by idiots and an expense upon taxpayers for which they receive no benefit or expected return on investment.

That's the truth, sorry everyone.

It's also why I advocate for base level socialism (to make our existing system of base level healthcare and education sustainable) for jobs and training.

I don't want to punish people for their 'uselessness'.
I want to provide people with the tools and knowledge to get out of that situation.
I want to stop people from falling between the cracks in the first place so they can be all they call be and have wholesome lives.

This policy is a joke.
It would be better to let play around on a D10 dozer and clear a path for roads and infrastructure and learn some real skills in the process than have you clearing weeds under high voltage power lines (for private companies... wtf?) or whipper snipping the local church as some mundane form of punishment.

I respect that capitalism allows us to choose our own paths and that we must also live by our choices but I want to make it easy for people NOT TO FAIL.

We could provide them with the tools to succeed but we punish them like criminals and force them to work alongside people who are sentenced by a court to do community service.

These people may have made bad choices but is degrading and discriminatory not to help them become useful in society.
We shoot ourselves in the foot with this policy that has never been fine tuned to actually be useful to society as a whole.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 1:14:31 PM
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Trouble with DSS is unless you ask the right questions you get nowhere, (unless you are a refugee or Aboriginal or Torres straight Islander).

Tell them what you want to do and see what assistance is available, sure there is something available for new business start ups.

A lot also depends on the competence of who you talk to.
Good luck.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 1:19:02 PM
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Stupid failure of work for the dole is the druggies, drunks and bludgers seem to be able to get out of doing it.

They are the ones who should be put to work.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 1:22:08 PM
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