Shadow Minister

Havent heard about that, interesting.

Cheerful, there is a proliferation of coffee shops in most parts of Sydney. Nearly all trade on a Sunday, for the simple reason it is second only to Saturday as the most profitable day of the week. No one operates their business on a weekend, week in week out, knowing they are losing money.
The whole Sunday penalty rate thing is a blind to allow retailers to boosts profits. Realistically, going om the numbers of operators, coffee shops must be extremely profitable, or there is an over supply in the market. There is no evidence of over supply as most continue to trade and show no signs of going out of business.
Some years back Thursday night trading was introduced in Sydney, and most shops on the main street strip opened, and business was good. With time the popularity of Thursday night shopping has lost its gloss, and profits, now the majority of shops on the strip close on a Thursday night.

Interesting Shadow, your wild claim about the SDA, not my favorite union, but can you offer any evidence for your claim.
"in exchange for a large payment to the union from Woolies, which occurred under the watch of Shorten."
Even if it was true, you lie because Shorten was head of the AWU and not the SDA which covers Woolies employees. Woolworths also make sizable donations to the Liberal Party, what influence does that have with industrial laws, could Turnbull favor a Howard like 'Work Choices' which would be to the advantage of a company like Woolworths. Remember public companies have a responsibility to share holder to invest money with the expectation of it returning a profit.

Bu Pl, how many of those small coffee shop owners pay half cash, half on the books on Sundays?

You have still not answered my question as to why the business owner should get paid less on a Sunday, while staff receive double.

In a world you want fairness, has is this fair?

rehctub,

"You have still not answered my question as to why the business owner should get paid less on a Sunday, while staff receive double"

Tell us why the business owner in question decided to invest in a business knowing full well that he'd be up for penalty rates if he operated on the weekend?

Butch, given my own observations that Sunday is a high volume day for coffee sales. I'm not convinced that Sunday is the terrible day for profit as you claim. Is your profit uniform over 7 days? Do you make $10,000 net (in you kick) on a Saturday, but have to get by with a lousy $5,000 take home on Mondays. I fully sympathies with that unsatisfactory situation you are in. I don't know why you bother getting out of bed on a Monday, I wouldn't for chicken feed! And to think your man servant (aka employee) Miguel is taking home 50 bucks, and a half keg of snags to feed the wife and his 10 kids, and the dog, every Monday and not working hard out! I agree, it's a disgrace, your too generous!

Do you think there are too many coffee establishments, competing for the same buck?

Paul,

You managed to cock it up again.

The SDA agreement with Woolies, that stripped workers of penalty rates in return for lucrative payments from Woolies, was signed in 2012 when Bill was Minister for industrial relations.

Penalty Bill, might not have been directly responsible for this corruption, but was directly involved in the stripping of penalty rates from Cleanevent workers, and from those working in a mushroom company, all for kick backs to the union.

Of course left whingers would prefer to pretend that none of this happened and that the CFMEU was not corrupt as they bankroll the greens and labor.