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Safe schools Roz ward, exposed as extremist, resigns

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I'll make it easy for ya poirot.

The first thing you & your friends want to do the GLTB crowd is lop their heads off. True or False

The World is Round. True or false.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 2 June 2016 12:00:16 PM
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SM,

"It's not just one extremist. The issue is with the material, and Roz Ward as head of the program had a lot to do with putting the material together, and has clearly admitted that much of the material has nothing to do with anti bullying."

I'm a bit in the dark here. Can you please post all the "material" linked directly to Safe Schools" that you're on about. The material to which you keep referring without showing it to us directly under the Safe Schools' banner.

And not to ignore the rabid "neo-Marxist" rants surrounding this issue....can I ask the same question as Jeff Sparrow?:

"Could Roz Ward keep her job if she liked the Australian flag a little?"

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/02/could-roz-ward-keep-her-job-if-she-liked-the-australian-flag-a-little?CMP=share_btn_tw

"Kennett and Birmingham and the other offence-mongers have taken particular umbrage at Ward’s lack of enthusiasm for the Australian flag – a hanging offence, La Trobe seems to think. Perhaps, then, the university administrators might explain precisely the degree of nationalist fervour required to gain entry to its community of scholars. Would Ward have been OK had she liked the flag a little? Does she need to wear it like a cape?..."

"Yes, Ward is a socialist. So was John Curtin and George Orwell and Helen Keller and Albert Einstein and Oscar Wilde. Would Kennett and Birmingham and the others engaged in this neo-McCarthyite push have excluded all of them? Or if it’s only particular types of socialists that are verboten, perhaps La Trobe can spell out exactly which doctrinal heresies it would like to ban.

Birmingham’s probably right to suggest that most Australians don’t agree with Roz Ward about Australian nationalism. But so what? Is the minister really arguing that, unless you have popular opinions, you can’t be employed in education? A curious notion of academic freedom – is that what La Trobe thinks, too? Where precisely will it draw the line? What if you vote for the Greens? What if you belong to a religious minority? Is there a list somewhere explaining exactly which ideas are and are not fit to be espoused on the Bundoora campus?"
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 2 June 2016 12:41:38 PM
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P,

I am not in the habit of doing your research.

No one takes seriously Jeff Sparrow's and your feeble attempt to trivialise the issue. If you want to find out why Roz Ward has been dumped, perhaps you should read the university's statement.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 2 June 2016 3:38:16 PM
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SM,

"I am not in the habit of doing your research."

Lol!...just as I thought,...nothing.

Always the same with you hot air spouters...keep mentioning "the material" - and when asked to produce it....zip, zilch.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 2 June 2016 4:15:34 PM
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Strange how you right-wing, freedom loving, characters are all for sacking someone because they have an opinion about the flag - posted in a private capacity.

"La Trobe University will be hit with legal action over its treatment of Safe Schools Coalition co-founder Roz Ward, who it suspended for calling the Australian flag "racist".

National Tertiary Education Union Victorian Secretary Colin Long said the union could launch legal action in the federal court as soon as Friday.

"We are determined to take all possible legal actions to defend Roz and get her back to work, and to defend the fundamental principle of free speech," he said."

"Maurice Blackburn employment lawyer Josh Bornstein said employers who disciplined or sacked an employee based on an expression of a political view could be in breach of the Fair Work Act."

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/lawyers-academics-condemn-la-trobe-universitys-suspension-of-safe-schools-cofounder-roz-ward-20160602-gp9nmz.html
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 2 June 2016 5:06:49 PM
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http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/why-attacks-on-safe-schools-founder-roz-ward-are-attacks-on-our-children-20160601-gp97ra.html

The author of the Gender Fairy has come out to supposedly support Roz Ward but it comes across more as an apology for her own behaviour than anything else.

Three times she refers to the Catholic Church when it is totally irrelevant to her argument as if she has some kind of grudge. This is hardly the arena to use in order to air your resentment about totally unrelated issues. There are many who criticise this program who have nothing to do with any church or with conservatism but just think that it is harmful to kids.

Why does she need to tell us her story and that of her child. Did she ask her child if it was ok for her private affairs to be broadcast in the national press? Why does this mother need to tell her story about how she dealt with the issue? It is like she is seeking some kind of acceptance for the way she has parented her child. There is nothing unique in her approach. Everyone knows that if your child presents with a medical or emotional issue that you seek out help from experts. Why does she need to tell us this unless she has some doubt about her own approach to the issue?

This article is not about the plight of Roz Ward and much more about the doubt of the author.
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 2 June 2016 5:07:00 PM
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