runner,

"...The people pushing these sick child grooming ideologies need help not given positions of power...."

Now let's ponder for a moment the kinds of institutions which undertake child grooming?

Like religious institutions and their often intolerant and odious teachings.....along the lines of "Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man".

I believe that was a good old Jesuit motto.

Here, from a few years back is head of ACCESS Ministries, Evonne Paddison addressing the Evangelical Fellowship in the Anglican Communion (EFAC)National Conference

http://www.scribd.com/doc/55338278/ACCESS-Ministry-s-head-Evonne-Paddison-s-speech-to-Anglican-Evangelical-Fellowship

"In Australia we have a God-given open door to children and young people with the Gospel, our federal and state governments allow us to take the Christian faith into our schools and share it. We need to go and make disciples."

"I believe that this is the greatest mission field we have in Australia: our children and our students. Our greatest field for disciple making."

"....but we must ask how much of that ministry is actually resulting in Christian conversion and discipleship growing and resulting in church growth?"

The above is just a taste of what she was on about....read on.

SM,

Why do you refer to Ward's lawyers as "threatening" her employers? They merely pointed out the law and what may have been breached in dismissing their client. If the university (as it claims) wasn't in breach of anything - why would they back down and reinstate her?

You do agree with conforming to the law, don't you SM?

runner,

Here's agood one.

While Paddison's address was in 2008, this was in yesterday's Brisbane Times.

"Education Queensland will review religious instruction materials being used in state schools, after one school found a popular program which taught children "every single person has sinned and rejected God and deserves to be punished" may be "soliciting" students to Christianity, in contradiction of departmental policy.

"Religious instruction policy defines proselytising as 'soliciting a student for a decision to change their religion's affiliation'. Solicit by its ordinary meaning is to ask for, to try to obtain, to persuade, to seek, to influence and express the need or desire," Mr Keong wrote in his letter to parents.

"Connect's lesson materials go beyond imparting knowledge of Biblical references, and extend to soliciting children to develop a personal faith in God and Jesus to become a Christian or 'Kingdom Kid'."

""In the teachers' manuals, the Connect authors remind instructors that most of their audience is not yet Christian, and the whole program appears to be based on that premise of trying to solicit them for a decision to become the kind of Christian prescribed in the materials."

"Other lesson plans include aims "to help students to understand that everyone deserves the punishment of God because we have all sinned and ignored Him", to ensure student's learn "to acknowledge their own sinfulness" and asks children to "reflect on whether they accept or reject Jesus""

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/religious-instruction-in-state-schools-soliciting-children-to-christian-faith-20160606-gpcxtw.html

What is that doing in state schools?!

Poirot

'What is that doing in state schools?'
I would say it is doing far less harm than the grooming and sexualisation of kids. Having a healthy fear of God is certainly far better than the regressive ideology that we came from slime and have no real purpose in life except to be confused over whether we are a boy ot girl. It has far less harm than teaching kids to experiment with oral sex, anal sex and any other kind of kinky sex to find out what you are. Yeah I know teaching a few boundaries is an anathema to many regressives however the amount of young kids lives destroyed by such ideology is very obvious.

Good point, Poirot.

Schools exist to educate children, not to indoctrinate them, whether through Christian, Muslim or Gramscian propaganda. Ed. Departments, principals and teachers all need training in how to tell the difference.

Thanks again for your support for this basic principle.

Cheers,

Joe

From the comments in response to that article,

"It's a bit strange, the Windsor State School RI policy is that "Only students who have identified as one of the above faith groups will participate in religious instruction." So they can't be 'proselytised'."

Also, RI is voluntary attendance.

However, if under those conditions RI is claimed to be 'prosletysing', what can be said about the 'Safe Schools' program? Where has it been put to the same test?

come on Loudmouth you know perfectly well that schools long ago adopted 'consensus' science. They teach kids the gw fantasy, evolution tripe, homosexual agenda, revised history, all cultures are equal nonsense and the list goes on. Why single out the one truth that exposes all in need of a Saviour. No wonder our psyche wards are overflowing and young people topping themselves at the rate of knots. Next you will be saying religion should be kept out of Parliament. Tell that to the Greens who are happy for swimmers to be taken by sharks and then bang on about it being killed even though most the population eat fish. By all meand side with Poirot but don't be in denial about what happens in schools.