A-a-a-and the right-wing swoop in for some damage control after an unfortunate ally shoots his mouth off with baseless assertions.

This is fun to watch.

Loudmouth, "I'll staunchly defend Poirot in her suggestion that all propaganda should be kept out of schools"

If she meant that I would agree. Her hypocrisy is comic.

"So telling vulnerable kiddies things like: "every single person has sinned and rejected God and deserves to be punished" is a good thing is it?"

No, it is too advanced for children. This should probably be taught in university once the student has developed their intellectual and critical abilities rather than when they are too young, thus understand this literally and develop an unhealthy primitive fear as a result.

Ditto for sexual education.

//Ditto for sexual education.//

Yeah, we sure wouldn't want kids to learn disgusting things like this:

http://tinyurl.com/jsaz5xj

It will warp their little minds. Oh please won't somebody think of the children?

Hi I'm a bit puzzled: you ask SM if he is okay with bullying, after he has pointed out that he is 'a fierce anti-bullying advocate'. Like me, I assume he is against ALL bullying, including that of homosexual kids, kids in some ambivalence over their sexuality, trans-, bi-, multi and non-sexual children of all genders. Nobody in school should be bullied. End of.

Perhaps the Unsafe Schools propaganda campaign could be extended to include the protection for all children against bullying ? Would you support that ?

Cheers,

Joe

LM,

My point exactly. Bully afflicts everyone that is different, too small, too fat, too quiet, etc.

"Ken Wiltshire, who reviewed the national curriculum for the Coalition government last year, said controversial subjects should be taught only with parent­al consent. He said the Safe Schools furore showed the danger of letting “ideological groups’’ devise lesson plans without Education Department input.

“Governments should never outsource the development of curriculum content to interest groups, particularly those with an ideological purpose or agenda,’’ he told The Australian. “There is no quality assurance. No controversial material should be taught in schools without the agreement of parents, acting in concert with the school.’’

Emeritus Professor Wiltshire — a professor of public administration at the University of Queensland — said the furore over Safe Schools showed why education authorities should vet any lessons involving sex, relig­ious, alcohol or drug education.

“We need to learn the lesson of the Safe Schools agenda,’’ he said.

“We don’t want material creeping into the curriculum without it being quality assured. You should never outsource the development of a curriculum to any group with a particular agenda, or blindly accept any curriculum material they have provided to be used in schools.

“Everyone should have the right to say what they think should go into a curriculum — but at the end of the day the education ministers are responsible for the curriculum.’’

Professor Wiltshire said governments often left the teaching of religion and sex education to outside groups because the issues were political “hot potatoes’’.

The Safe Schools Coalition — an anti-bullying program for gay and intersex children — has been broadly criticised over its ideological agenda, which tells children they are “gender fluid’’ and teaches them it is “heteronormative’’ to refer to boys and girls, or use the pronouns “he” or “she”.

Its classroom materials included links to a gay youth website, Minus 18, which included instructions on penis tucking and chest binding, and promoted online links to sex shops and gay nightclubs."