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Respect for our Courts - Respect for our Culture?

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I heard on radio, the six 'tinnie terrorists' who were apprehended somewhere in Northern Queensland, apparently while taking their first perilous steps to sail to Indonesia, in their preposterous efforts to join ISIS in Syria ? They faced a Melbourne Court today.

Apparently the supporters of this highly intellectual lot, had failed to stand in the customary way for the Magistrate. This show of obvious disrespect, naturally raised the indignation of said (female) Magistrate, and they were strongly censured for their arrogance and scorn. The learned defence counsel judiciously advised the Court thus, Muslims don't feel obliged to show respect, other than to Allah.

Once more, our legal system has been thoroughly sullied. Yet it's again shown a disproportionate level of forbearance, for our Muslim folk. Or is this simply another indelible sign that our Australian culture is going to 'hell in a hand basket'?
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 19 May 2016 2:40:43 PM
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Dear O Sung Wu,

Have you considered the fact that those people do not want to be Australians, that all they wanted is to leave this place?

One of them at least was brought to Australia by force in the first place.

Why then should they respect your institutions?

OK, so they wanted to join Daesh and Australia is, very rightly so, fighting Daesh and therefore rightly so does what it can to prevent new recruits from joining the fight against it. That being the case, these men should not be tried as criminals before a criminal court, but instead detained as Prisoners Of War for as long as the war lasts, then sent back to their own natural place.

They are an enemy, not criminals - and enemies too need to be respected, not humiliated.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 19 May 2016 4:16:21 PM
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Yu, you have to be kidding. These thugs should never have been stopped from leaving. The authorities, by revoking their passports have simply retained the hatred in our homeland.

What should have happened was to let them leave, then cancel their passports so they cant return. Ever.

The best we can now hope for is to spend millions keeping these thugs in our own prisons.

In some countries you commit a serious crime, your whole family gets deported. Bring it on.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 19 May 2016 4:31:28 PM
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these muslims have a lot in common with the Greens. They hate every form of national Government and promote law breaking. They are also very happy to use violence to quench free speach.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 19 May 2016 4:54:49 PM
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'afternoon to you; YUYUTSU, REHCTUB & RUNNER...

YUYUTSU...

I disagree with your summation these 'six, sick, slugs' are war criminals and should be accorded the same respect as war criminals. One part of me agrees with many people, when they say simply let 'em go, NEVER ever to return whatever their reasons may be.

The copper in me says lock them up, maximum security, classify them as 'intractable' and treat them accordingly. Minimum term, 30 years without any possibility of parole nor licence. The Veteran in me says...well I'll not go there, as last time I copped heaps for declaring my intentions if circumstances existed similar to that in South Vietnam in the late sixties?

With respect though YUYUTSU, war criminals they're NOT. They are indeed the worst type of loathsome criminal you could imagine.
In conclusion, I agree with everything both REHCTUB (Butch) and RUNNER have said.
Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 19 May 2016 5:35:26 PM
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Dear Rehctub,

<<The best we can now hope for is to spend millions keeping these thugs in our own prisons.>>

Well, not millions, but perhaps a 6-digit figure because I expect Daesh to be finished off in a couple of years, then I'll place them on their boat and send them away, never to return.

It's not nice to be paying all that money, but it is even less nice if they kill Australian soldiers in Syria/Iraq.

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Dear O Sung Wu,

<<They are indeed the worst type of loathsome criminal you could imagine.>>

The fact is that they resided in Australia for several years without committing any crime: you can't say the same about many others.

If you are looking for an example of far more loathsome criminals, look here: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-18/malware-hunters:-the-battle-to-stop-hackers/7422752

Enemy soldiers must be stopped - but are generally not criminals.

It's a pity that at this time we cannot allow them to leave, but once we can security-wise afford to, we should.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 19 May 2016 5:54:00 PM
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