The show of total disrespect shown to our courts by their supporters further strengthens my opinion that true multiculturalism disappeared a few decades ago.

Gone are the days whereby those immigrating to our country, did so in their quest for a better life, and in doing so, contributed to the wonderful country we have, however, the past few decades has seen many scum bags coming here no to contribute, but to feed off our over generous support network.

The true criminals here are our law makers who have allowed this to happen, and continue to allow this to happen. The likes of Singapore would not tolerate this garbage. Why do we continue to tolerate it.

I say again, we are a peace loving nation and this garbage has no place here. Not now, not ever.

Take a look at how we have degenerated in the past few decades, then try to imagine where we might be in thirty years from now.

We should adopt the ultimate FIFO attitude towards invited guests of, FIT IN OR (') OFF, with a capital 'F'.

Migration always was like the curate's egg, good and bad in parts. However our overlords at the Big End of Town and their tools, the political parties who claim to represent us, came to a cozy agreement not to allow any reviews or criticism of immigration policy.

Immigration policy had a very simple aim: to prop up business and an economy based on perpetual growth. A 'Big Australia' represents plenty of customers and bigger profits. As a spin off, business and especially manufacturing had a source of cheap, non-unionised labour, who would also be very difficult to unionise through language problems and different cultural traditions that were often oppositional to union organising.

The early Oz Communists got that right in their criticisms of immigration.

Migrants also objected to being used as cheap, easily dispensable labor. The reply, "Hey, if you don't want the low paid job and no workplace safety to speak of, there is another boatload on the way".

Most of manufacturing has long gone and the jobs that required hands and feet and SFA brainpower and skills (which would have required language competence and training). The heavily subsidised car plants followed.

Immigration has always been the sacred cow that must not be criticised and must always be praised. It is also a complete myth that a country does well out of it. However most migrants seem to benefit, although some do not and are never happy until they can retire back in their country of origin.

The recent problems are due to several factors:

- first and most important is that the Internet has encouraged and provided for improved freedom of speech and a means to access information that was previously very difficult to access and analyse. To be blunt, the public were being mushroomed and only told the sales pitch for more migration;

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- secondly, the diversity tail has been wagging the immigration policy dog and forced Immigration authorities to allow in numbers of people whose political systems, traditions and values are very much at odds with our own and very likely will remain so; and,

- finally, Immigration authorities are not resourced adequately to check the large numbers involved (they never had adequate resources in the past either, which is how so many Mafia got in), nor handle the number of appeals encouraged by the NGOs and professionals who make hay out of claimed asylum seekers and migrants.

Many of the people I have been dealing with in business over the years are first or second generation migrants and they are far more choosy as to who they would like let in. They are critical of what they see as naive bureaucrats and corrupt politicians feathering their own nests and allowing the political corruption, nasty traditions and violence that they fled from to develop here.

Anyhow, that is all something to discuss.

Hi there BUTCH...

I'm in total agreement with you. The matter of whether they stand, sit, or lie down is essentially immaterial. It's the principle, the contempt, the utter rudeness they've shown, both to our legal system and the Australian culture in toto.

Notwithstanding many of these types are more than ready to complete a set of forms, attend an interview, and later pick-up their money for this or that, arbitrarily paid for by the Oz taxpayer. Yet these same people will not even consent to overtly display even a minuscule level of respect, to the very culture and government that provides them with money with which to live.

OK, I'm old fashioned, out of date perhaps, but somewhere buried deeply within this labyrinth of arrogance, lies a more
sinister aspect to all this? As you correctly say Butch, the failure of multiculturalism with some from Islamic countries is very evident.

ONTHEBEACH...

Much of what you say, I'd never argue with. Particularly where you assert, immigration staff have always lacked the necessary resources; suffered from inadequate training, because of inadequate staff numbers, have been smothered with masses of applications, together with lengthy and costly appellant protocols.

Much of which have been perpetuated by certain avaricious members of the Immigration legal fraternity, some feeding insatiably upon the bottomless public purse, all the while tying-up valuable Court time.

o sung wu,

I must say that the disrespect shown to the courts is only to be expected after politically sensitive magistrates have excused so many ferals who have abused and jostled police officers, and gone as far as threatening the families of police with impunity.

It is not this particular magistrate's fault, but she should be looking very closely at her colleagues around Australia who will reap what they have sown. Some of the politically correct, 'Progressive' judiciary really need to get out there and see the negative consequences of their limp decisions for the public, businesses and police.

On the Gold Coast, bikie thugs were over the moon when the previous Premier and Duntroon Officer Graduate Campbell Newman - a solid, reliable man who stood up to the cowardly outlaw bikies' bluff and meant it, was replaced by Labor's Palaszczuk. With Palaszczuk and Greens the bikies knew that the party was on again for them and they have taken full advantage. Absolute contempt and lack of respect for police, laws and the public are back in vogue. So is the violence and perhaps you have been reading about the shootings and turf wars (over drug territory).

Make no mistake either, there is also a return of the sort of senior police who were about before and promoted 'mutual cooperation' and 'understanding' with the outlaw motorcycle gangs.

The tone is set from the top. That means from the Premier down.

Hi ONTHEBEACH...

I would NOT wish to be a copper in Queensland under the current administration. From what I've heard organised crime is flourishing up there, together with the strong arm of the Bikie gangs enforcing their rule.

Without the full support and backing of both government and the judiciary the coppers don't have a chance of doing their job properly. Still, that just might suit some political figures in Brisbane? My understanding the new laws that were meant to curb consorting among Bikie members worked particularly well I thought. Moreover it's in everyone's interest the heavies are constrained in their respective caves without any unnecessary violence on the streets.

'tis the very worst thing the WRAN government's AG (Frank WALKER ?) did, was to repeal the old, but very effective consorting laws and disbanding the Consorting Squad. A powerful tool for detectives, to make many of these hobo's, take notice of them and 'leave town' as it were ?