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George Soros in the News

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is Mise, if you read Greens policy on firearms you will see there is no suggestion of a prohibition on guns. My personal beliefs are somewhat tougher than the policy, but I can live with the policy.

Take this " Improved cooperation between the NSW government and other levels of government in Australia to strengthen national uniform gun laws, firearms training and a national register of firearms"

The Greens support firearms training, if they wanted all guns removed from society there would be no training, now would there.
The notion that the Greens want to see the Western Democracies total disarmed, are the crazed machinations of that right wing glove puppet who pops in here every now and then to deliver an anti Green diatribe. He's overdue, should be here shortly.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 11 June 2016 5:24:09 PM
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Paul1405, "The notion that the Greens want to see the Western Democracies total disarmed.."

Weasel words pretending that the military was included. Whereas the Greens would of course see the State as the sole owner and user of firearms. That is the totalitarian Greens for you and their totalitarian State.

Of course the goal of 'gun control' is to ban private ownership and confiscate all privately owned firearms from legally licensed citizens. Ti claim otherwise is absolute rot.

However 'gun control' and the Greens are not interested at all in criminals and their illegal weapons. The Greens are soft on criminals and go all out to protect their rights.

Take the example of the knife attacker in Hornsby, where that meddlesome Greens politician Shoebridge, a proponent of 'gun control' is spinning the knife-wielding attacker as the victim and the protecting police as the baddies. Of course the Greens conveniently forget the victims, the threatened public and those injured, accidentally it seems as can be expected where a serious offence is committed in a crowded area. It is though the only victim is the knife-wielding perpetrator. That is the total bare-faced hypocrisy and gall of the NSW Greens.

Shame, Shoebridge, shame!

'Gun control' is NOT concerned with effective regulation. Nor is 'gun control' aimed at evidence based laws. 'Gun control' is NOT about deterring or collaring criminals either.

'Gun control' is solely targeted at restrictions, bans and confiscations affecting legally licensed citizens.

'Gun control' is the antithesis of effective REGULATION of firearms.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 11 June 2016 6:13:15 PM
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The right wing glove puppet arrived on queue. Not interested in policy, but to deliver one of his well rehearsed anti Greens diatribes, something he is becoming expert at, does it daily on this forum. What is 'One Nations' policy on guns? When confronted about any policy Pauline runs! preferring to send her foot soldiers do the dirty work on sites like this.

Once again I post Greens NSW detailed policy on firearms.

http://nsw.greens.org.au/policies/nsw/firearms

Other might care to do likewise, but unfortunate their policy does not extend beyound the one liner;

"Shoot to Kill!"

Another matter of grave concern is, it has been shown that right wing extremists elements in society are stock piling guns

The Greens have set up a website listing unnamed firearm license holders’ gun hauls and their postcode.

A person living near Newcastle who owns 322 guns topped the list, while a gun owner in suburban Mosman has an arsenal of 278. More than 850,000 firearms are registered across the state.

“These private arsenals represent a real threat to community safety,” Mr Shoebridge said.

The full story;

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/private-gun-arsenals-a-threat-says-greens-david-shoebridge/news-story/094cf5691b473a092973da7682aa8402
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 12 June 2016 10:02:38 AM
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The Greens have breached Privacy to give the locations of legal collections, most likely of historical significance and licensed dealers. A really dumb and dangerous thing to do. Unprincipled and immoral. Because it is possible for organised crime to take pieces of information, match with others and come to an informed conclusion on the best places to strike. Advises criminals what large areas to exclude and which to concentrate on.

As for the Greens 'policy' on firearms, there is no difference with the objectives of those shady, secret squirrel 'gun control' activists.

Licensed citizens and their legal firearms are not the problem. Criminals and their illegal weapons are.

The Greens have no interest in effective, evidence-based firearms regulation. Or else they wouldn't demonstrate such complete ignorance of the available laws. They would have studied the regulations and would be making every effort to consult with the stakeholders who have the licences, many thousands of honest ordinary Aussies, and their clubs and associations.

Instead, the Greens slander licensed owners and their government accredited, internationally recognised associations.

Paul1405, you are a case in point. Because you are forever going on about 'more tightening' without ever bothering to inform yourself of the present conditions. That is about one side always giving concessions and the other constantly demanding more concessions.

However the real madness is the Catch 22, that 'gun control' only affects the honest, law-abiding ordinary citizen who does seek and obtain a licence and can be trusted to register his/her firearms. They are also the unfortunates who receive very harsh penalties for even minor paperwork discrepancies - minor victimless errors that could never affect anyone and such lapses are referred to as 'gun crimes'!

Examples and links would be lost on you as usual. Because you, the Greens and those few 'gun control' serial activists are solely about taking rights from ordinary licensed citizens.

The laws need 'more tightening' you say. What a joke, you know squat about those laws and have never shown any intention of informing yourself.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 12 June 2016 10:44:35 AM
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Unfortunately Beach, you have failed to equate yourself with Greens NSW Firearms policy. What makes you an expert on gun law, as you claim to be.
Here is some of One Nations so called firearms policy, just take it on board, and then thing of some of the ramifications;

"Licences will be issued on a lifetime basis"
"the licence holder is free to obtain a firearm of the type suitable to their purpose."
"We (One Nation) recognise the growing concern among Australians with regard to their increasing vulnerability within the home. Australians have the right to defend themselves and their families in their own homes. Subject to other provisions stated in this policy, we acknowledge their legitimate right to firearm ownership."
"Legislation regarding safe storage provisions shall accommodate situations where the firearm is under the direct physical control of the owner and where locked storage impedes a legitimate intended purpose"

This is nutter policy pandering to the Nutter's in society.
I would predict that if this sort of policy was to ever become law, that for every instance of self defense in the home, there would be dozens of domestic violence related shootings.

The real agenda of these right wing nutters is not protection in the home. but the formation of what Beach advocates private regiments of so called Citizen Militia.

The final crack up is who do they want to run firearms (no) control? "This panel shall be made up of representatives of firearm owners, professional, recreational and industry." in other word the lunatics will be in charge of the asylum! Beach and Is Mise I see a future position for you.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 13 June 2016 9:29:02 AM
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Shocking news from the United States where a licensed gun owner Omar Mateen is accused of the mass murder of 50 people, and the wounding of 52 others, the worse mass shooting of its type in US history.
Mateen was killed after taking hostages at the Pulse club, a gay nightclub in Orlando Florida.
Until the good citizens of the United States start listing to people like their President Barack Obama about the dangers of unrestricted guns in the community, this carnage is going to continue. Help Australia if ever the extremists get their way here. Some say it can't happen here, or can it!
President Obama said Americans were united in grief, outrage and "resolve to defend our people" after "an act of terror and an act of hate".
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 13 June 2016 6:13:48 PM
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