Is Mise, looks like you and Beach have parted company on Ian Turnbull! You described Turnbull as some kind of hard done by farmer. Beach agrees with me, a cold blooded killer.
Unlike you, I don't believe Turnbull should have held a gun licence.
Looks like the fascists from the North, and the Trotskists from the South have something in common.

Beach the real 'Useful Idiots' in all this are the dupes of the international gun merchants, you and Is Mise for two, who spout the nonsense that more guns in the community have no adverse effect on the number of gun related deaths, proven utter nonsense. As you know the ones who are under the influence of these peddlers of death, are the likes of The Shooters Party and the SSAA who take financial reward from the international gun lobby. The American NRA for one had directly financed the gun lobby in Australia. Deny that one!

Paul1405, "Beach agrees with me, a cold blooded killer"

No, that is another of your 'wobblies'. I have already taken you to task for excusing the murderer because of alleged 'mental health', or so you would have it. The record is there in B&W. Here,

onthebeach, Monday, 6 June 2016 9:06:01 PM
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=7297&page=29

The fact is that you were diminishing the murderer's culpability. You were echoing a defence claim that the Court did NOT accept.

You are at odds with the Court findings and its quite proper sentencing.

Trust the Greens to be politicising a murder.

It bears repeating that the Greens have a reputation for dishonesty to achieve their political ends. Greens senators and leaders especially subscribe to Lenin's maxim that,

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth." - Vladimir Lenin

So Beach, you claim that Ian Turnbull was simply a normal person with a gun (licensed) who took it upon himself to cold bloodily kill another human being. If this be the case then we the unarmed are indeed in a extremely vulnerable position. At anytime a licensed gunnie, given some perceived provocation, could take it upon themselves to open fire at will.

Given you know so much about The Greens and what Leninist maxim they subscribe to. Can I ask. Which is your favorite Hitler quote, the one you personally adhere to?

The Court that decided that. You disagree with the Court.

What I am saying is,

- trust the Greens to be politicising a murder; and

- the Greens have a reputation for dishonesty to achieve their political ends.

The gun happy brigades favorite pin up boy, and role model, Michael Diamond who is accused of drink driving (high range) and at the same time possessing a shotgun and 150 deadly rounds in his car. Diamond is now demanding special treatment in court, Diamond wants his charges dealt with quickly so he can pack his bags for Rio. NO CHANCE said the judge.

One can only speculate as to how many gunnies get around drunk in their cars, with loaded firearms at hand!
Is Mise do you have any figures on that score?

Is Mise nothing on that leading shooter, and favorite son, Tony Azzi, and the accusations of him killing protected wildlife (defenseless wombats)?

I have only mentioned the more well behaved shooters, you would be shock at the actions of the real bad ones!

The gunnies hold to the VLAD Lenin maxim; "A lie told often enough becomes the truth.",

Grow up, Paul.

I note that the Greens oppose minors aged 12 to 18 being taught safety with firearms; is that in the hopes that a minor who happens across a gun, will because he/she has never been taught safety procedures have an accident and thus provide the Greens with more grist for their mill?

Do the Greens oppose driver training for those under 18?
Do they oppose minors driving motor vehicles?

How about minors on farms, should they be taught safety with chain saws?

The Greens' gun law proposals are a farce.
They want semi-automatic pistols banned yet have nothing to say about the faster firing double action revolver.

How fast is fast, Paul, as I've said I can and do fire 6 accurate shots in under 5 seconds and from an 1873 model single action pistol, i.e. a pistol that has to be manually cocked for each shot; no just pulling the trigger.