Dear Paul,

<<I'll give you a scenario which maybe you could comment on; A vagrant alcoholic has $5, he could have earned it, found it, or been given it in some way by society. He has a choice, he can spend it on a nourishing meals, or a bottle of methylated spirits. He chooses the metho over the meal, has he done wrong or right and why? Is his choice dependent on the means that he obtained the money, or not?>>

This question is too easy. I immediately filter out irrelevant information such as that the man is vagrant, how much money he has and how he got that money. All that remains is that he is an alcoholic and that he chose the bottle over a nourishing meal, so I conclude that he is in the wrong.

I would only make very few and rare exceptions to my judgement, such as if the man was suffering from hypothermia at the time - otherwise he is doing wrong by his liver.

Lol!...who needs the Telegraph, etc...

All you have to do is drop by OLO and you find the best of the Murdoch gutter rags all nicely abridged in one thread.

Storrar asked a question which the puerile blabber-mouth, Kelly O'Toaster, couldn't answer.

Murdoch loosed his troopers onto the pleb to demonstrate that the lower orders shouldn't put neo-con pollies on the spot like that.

The End.

Paul 1405,

What a naive fool you are! Being poor isn't a crime, but being poor is no excuse for being a criminal. A 'poor' criminal is the same as a rich criminal. As for 'poverty', cut the crap. There are no really poor people in Australia, merely people who think they can have what others have without the intelligence, the work ethic, or the ability to manage and save money that other people have. Even people bludging on the dole are not poor in Australia; we now have generations of families living reasonably well without working. You are an out of date class warrior, and probably a malcontented bludger yourself, if your constantly whining posts represent your true thoughts. Get a backbone, man.

Someone (?anonymous) put this quote on Facebook. I thought it said it all :
"An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. (Cont'd)

.. and Degenerate Duncan is "on suicide watch" is he? Poor Duncy Wuncy's feelings are hurt, are they? Where do you get these ridiculous lies from? Is he in jail? Is he in hospital? Because they are they only places where suicide watches occur. Perhaps Tony Jones is keeping an eye in him for another of his nonsensical, sick programs?

"...You are an out of date class warrior, and probably a malcontented bludger yourself, if your constantly whining posts represent your true thoughts. Get a backbone, man."

This is the fella who's handle is ttbn (which apparently stands "try to be nice")

Lol!