ttbn, the day I start taking advice from you is the day I go out and neck myself.

Suse, the assumption that only through study does a student achieve. is not entirely true. There must have been some or all who didn't study but achieved an 'A', and then there were those that studied hard but only got an 'F'. So if the study types stopped then nothing will change the naturally smart will still get an 'A' without study and the others will still get an 'F' without study.

Poirot, one thing is for sure. Duncan is not wasting tax dollars from Rupert's 'News Corp'. They have been exposed as tax dodgers!

http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/net-closing-on-corporate-tax-dodging-20160422-gocix6.html

Paul, Poirot, Foxy,

The problem is not the question, the problem is that the left whingers (and Duncan himself) tried to portray Duncan Storrar as a hard working bloke who can't afford to buy his kids ice cream because of the mean coalition. However, the reality is that this has far more to do with his life of crime and drugs than that those earning > $87k are going to score 86c/day.

Compare that to the tax bracket moves by Juliar in 2012 which effectively handed those earning 20kp.a. about $1800p.a. with an additional huge welfare increase for bludgers like Duncan.

For the example that Paul gave, if the alcoholic spends $5 on wine rather than buying his kids ice cream, it is his choice, but then he can't complain that his kids don't get ice cream because he doesn't get more from the government.

I wonder if the leech industry of lawyers are now circling this whole abc wreckage.

Paul 1405,

Where did you get idea the that I was giving you "advice". I don't give advice and, even if I did, I wouldn't try it with you. You are incapable of thinking, let alone taking advice. I just comment on the blatherings of misguided fools who think that their word is law. You are just one such misguided fool who is probably beyond help. You are entitled to express your neanderthal views, but you surely don't hope to get away with such nonsense all the time.

Poirot,

You have clearly never been insulted. Get mummy to make you a sling for that lower lip.

Joe,

Good to see my favourite lefty up and about. Pity there aren't more like you.

Suseonline,

You seem to be overlooking a few points:

1. The story is not credible. For a start, Obama is not a socialist!

2. Socialists don't want to completely destroy individual reward. Some communists do, but even communists have learned from early Soviet mistakes.

3. Those who are working and those who are receiving are often the same people at different times in their lives.

4. The value of wealth is non linear. What would make no (or at most, negligible) difference to the living standards of the rich would make a huge difference to the living standards of the poor. So the axiom "You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it" depends on how wealth is measured.

5. The rewards of work are usually much better than being taken care of.

6. It's technically false that "the government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else", as it is possible to give first and take later. It may sound like splitting hairs, but that's the way most governments end up doing it.

7. Lack of opportunity holds people back far more than insufficient reward.

ttbn,

It would take a lot more than a rancorous fellow like you insult me..you're reasonably entertaining though : )

Here we go on Suse's facebook myth thingy...

"Origins: In March 2009, one of the e-mail forwards of the moment was the piece quoted above. It appeared variously titled "Excellent Lesson In Economics," "Great Experiment," "Experiment in Socialism," "Texas Professor," "A Simple Analogy," "A Great Lesson on Socialism," "Economics 101," "Something for Nothing?," "A Perfect Analogy," "Simple Economics" and "Capitalism vs Socialism."

There is indeed a real school named Texas Tech in Lubbock, Texas, but that school is merely one of many settings used for this fictional illustrative tale meant to explain the teller's belief that socialism does not work. (Another example of an illustrative tale used to explain what might otherwise be a difficult concept to grasp is the "How Taxes Work" item that was widely circulated in 2002.)"

http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp

Paul, Yes....fancy Duncan trying to do a Rupie and pay no taxes - I mean who does he think he is - a right-wing corporate leech?

.....

Hiya, Foxy...good luck with your test : )