Yes Paul, you seem obsessed with this ten buck per hour cash in hand crap that rarely happens now, as most wont work for that.

Even the dole bludgers ark up at the thought of having to work for their additional $100 per week, saying why should they work for five bucks an hour. What they fail to acknowledge is that they are already paid $250 per week for doing nothing.

As for the poor, I agree with ttbn when it comes to the so called poor.

As for the ice cream for the kid, where did the other hundreds go that left him unable to afford an ice cream.

We are all born with an opportunity to fail Paul, some of us chose not to, and that is the difference.

Being poor is quit often a choice.

(Cont'd)
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Foxy,

Your sanctimony is cloying, even for you.

Poirot,

I think you've run out of puff with your little sneer about my moniker; I like a joke, but you don't seem to have much in your locker. Yes, I did try to be nice, but forgot to reckon on nicampoops like you - childish, petulant individuals who don't like to be far from their mummies. And, I am not going to change the name just because you find it amusing, nor do I expect that you will ever grow up. A big LOL to you, little lad.

Dearest Foxy,

I wish you the best of luck, I'll be barracking for you :)

As for Storrar, I recall that Marx had nothing but contempt for the lumpenproletariat of his day (which was not a rosy time even for workers), for bludgers, low-lifes and dead-beats: he regarded them as totally unreliable allies for the genuine working class, liable to flip over to support the ruling class of Marx's day if the price was right.

But I'm a bit puzzled: how can someone get a tax cut if they aren't paying any taxes ?

It's not all bad news though: with his sucker-money, Storrar can now begin paying child support - at least, until it runs out.

Joe

.ttbn,

It's not necessary to alter your moniker - "try to be nasty" fits well enough...I only comment because you appear particularly prone to hurling insults.

Suse,

That story is actually fictitious BS. I'll post something on it from Snopes when I get back on the laptop (on iPad at the mo)?

When did you become a raging neo-lib?