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Should mothers day be a public holiday?
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Posted by NathanJ, Monday, 9 May 2016 1:46:23 PM
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While we are at it, what about fathers day then children's day.
Who is going to pay? Posted by Philip S, Monday, 9 May 2016 2:05:21 PM
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Nathan, do father's have their stay-home status on their Facebook page?
If not, why not? Are they better father's if they stay home with their kids? Why should mothers indicate whether they are stay at home mothers or not? There are good and bad parents of both genders who are stay at home parents, just as there are good and bad parents who work outside of the home. In fact, some of the worst mothers I have ever encountered are ones who are stay at home mothers....those who wouldn't work whether they are mothers or not, and spend all their welfare money on alcohol and drugs. No, we shouldn't have a public holiday for mothers, because that would mean a whole lot of people would be upset on that day, either because they had no mothers anymore, or they were unable to have children, or their kids have died...... Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 9 May 2016 8:29:08 PM
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As the founder of Mothers' Day spent a considerable part of her time trying to have it abolished, I think that we should respect her wishes and not make it more entrenched and comercialized than it already is.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 9 May 2016 8:36:49 PM
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Yep, lets just have another pubic holiday, don't worry about the disruption to business, or the associated costs, lets just have another day off.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 5:22:50 AM
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Butch, lets have a holiday and call it 'Business Day' and then you will have nothing to bitch about Butch. In fact you can supply the snags (free) for the BBQ and some of that top shelf fillet just for you old forum buddy Paul. Don't worry I'll bring me appetite, you can bring the beer as well.
Just on Mothers Day, my partner "T" was rather chocked up, having dinner at the local pub, she only wanted to go to the pub, with 3 of her 4 grown up children and the mokopunas (grandchildren) etc about 20 in total. Missed her daughter in NZ, who she spoke to earlier in the day. All Mothers love their day, its not about holidays its about family. so Butch you are off the hook. Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 7:03:16 AM
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Why not make Friday a public holiday? Monday too?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 7:58:51 AM
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Not all women are mothers
Not all men are fathers Not all people can have kids. And not everyone's Mums and Dads are around anymore. Therefore, not everyone will see it as a celebration. Why should you get a day off on Mothers day anyway Nathan? I think we should just leave it how it is not being a public holiday, because it doesn't always apply to everyone (though everyone had a mum at some point) Maybe Mums and Dads themselves should be legally able to elect to take the day off work without pay to spend with their kids if they choose to... And maybe people should also be able to elect to take the day off without pay on their birthdays as well, if they choose. If you do go to work, the boss is expected to buy you a cake and shout you lunch. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 8:36:52 AM
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Mother's Day is always on a Sunday in Australia when most people are already off work anyway...
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 10:19:49 AM
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I regard both family relations and religion as matters which should be no business of government. Holidays to do with family relations and religion should be the private business of those who choose to observe those holidays.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 11:49:34 AM
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Mother's Day has always been celebrated on the
second Sunday in May as far as I can recall. In Australia, we are indeed the Lucky Country. We receive more public holidays than any one else. We should count our blessings - and as David F. pointed out - Mother's Day should be celebrated privately. We don't need any more public holidays. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 2:18:49 PM
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Doubtless a rainbow 'Two Dads' Day would be more in line with the 'Progressives' than a Mothers Day. -Mothers Day implying that mums are useful and necessary even for the healthy child. That is contested by the gay activists, and the ratbag radical feminists of course.
Heavens above, Mothers Day might even remind of the essential contributions of the family and the extended family that so many infants and young people miss out on. 'Progressives' sneer at what they despise and insult as 'traditional' family. Hey, that family stuff is contrary to the ideology of the international socialists, whose idealism has the State raising children and not parents. Hence that Rainbow Sex Education in Victoria, where parents cannot be trusted to mold those young brains to accept the Marxist view as normal. While I am not for all of those politically correct days that leftist 'Progressives' have foisted upon us, where public holidays are concerned it would be very hard indeed to mount a superior case for the outrageous political demonstration that is Labour Day, over giving the day instead in recognition of mothers and family. The left are trying to associate the Labor Day march with ANZAC. However at the same time the leftists are bad-mouthing ANZAC. That requires considerable rewriting of history and heaps of leftist spin. -The same sort of twisted ideology and Marxist spin that puts down motherhood and family, but tries to co-opt the gold stamp of marriage for those rainbow 'Two Dads'. Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 5:48:36 PM
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Give Labor Day to Mothers and Family instead and in Queensland take the holiday back to October.
October thanks to previous Premier Campbell Newman, but reversed by that rigid left fool Palaszczuk. There are too many holidays in a short time and workers need their holidays spread. Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 10 May 2016 5:54:25 PM
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Foxy - Quote "We receive more public holidays than any one else."
You are so wrong with that statement. Please do your homework before such a erroneous statement Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 6:18:01 PM
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Dear Phillip S.,
My statement that "We receive more holidays than anyone else," referred to Victoria. Which I should have made clearer. (I was in a hurry). My apologies. The following link explains: http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2015/08/23/australia-public-holidays_n_8028896.html Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 6:44:41 PM
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We meaning everyone, lives in a global world, the in Australia would have been better as I know quite a few countries get more holidays than Australia.
Posted by Philip S, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 7:15:42 PM
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Public holiday? Nah...I think it's a great day to visit and send wishes but let us not be too dramatic
Posted by Joseph1965, Thursday, 12 May 2016 5:00:15 AM
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There are too many holidays crammed into part of the year.
Labor Day could be dispensed with. It is all left wing union politics. A day of drunkenness for the CFMEU and other union heavyweights that have no affection for the public, nor concern for community good, anyhow. There is far more observance and support for Mothers Day. It could easily become Mothers and Families Day, in recognition of the essential bonds and glue (and all of the unpaid work and volunteering) that hold our society together and make things work. As a quirky thought, imagine a Fathers Day Public Holiday in feminist dominated, politically correct Oz. It would be one of those Simpsons 'Whacking Days', with men as the targets. Although with the present fathers day we are practically there already. No dad wants fathers day retained. Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 12 May 2016 12:48:08 PM
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Foxy,
"We receive more public holidays than any one else...." Try Google, you might get a big surprise.LOL Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 12 May 2016 1:38:16 PM
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Dear Is Mise,
Been there, done that. Read the link I gave. Thanks for your concern. (smile). Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 12 May 2016 2:19:24 PM
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Dear Nathan, for the benefit of yourself, and Paul, you have to understand the complexities of public holidays and while we all like time off with pay, the reality is someone has to pay for that time off.
Unfortunately, more and more it is the business owner that pays for that time off, or, its the consumer, the very person that enjoys the time off in the first place. I know Paul just loves to call me a whinger, however, having been self employed, and an employer since the late 80's, I can assure you that I am in a position to explain why simply wanting another holiday just does not cut it and in fact, it costs our economy billions every year just to have public holidays and, while we except them reluctantly at times, simply wanting another one is simply reckless. By all means have one for any event you like, but use an existing one and rename it rather than simply having another one because the costs are too high. Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 2:44:39 PM
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While on the subject, when I was working with a global consultancy my colleagues from overseas who were involved with public organisations were aghast that public services and particularly Quangos often approved special leave with pay for ethnic staff taking religious days off.
That was in addition to the usual public holidays, including the Christian ones, that they availed themselves of as well. 'Multiculturally sensitive HR', their exasperated operational managers said, after being forced to turn a blind eye to the practice. The taxpayer has to stump up for the paid leave though. Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 10:29:06 PM
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We would not be alive without oxygen. On the earth initially there was no free oxygen in the air. Some bacteria developed that excreted oxygen as a waste product. As time went on they generated enough oxygen in the air so that organisms that breathe oxygen could develop. To some species of anaerobic bacteria oxygen is a poison so they sacrificed themselves so we could live and breathe what was poison to them.
Let's have a holiday to honour oxygen and the bacteria that sacrificed themselves for us. Posted by david f, Wednesday, 18 May 2016 1:22:44 AM
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It's a lot of effort and something to proud off. Mother's should be celebrated - but sadly, I see a lot of mother's leave the fact they are a stay at home mother for example (off their facebook page).
Without my mother, I would not be alive today. I feel we should do more by recognising the important role mothers have played over many centuries and recognise them, in a formal movement with a heart and in multiple spiritualistic elements - not simply (with a day) to sell chocolates and flowers.