Dearest Foxy,

Gosh, I'm glad that you " .... don't want to make this discussion simply about Gay marriage."

Throughout the ages, like it or not, heterosexual marriages have been the norm. They're not particularly progressive, one way or the other, but they keep societies ticking over. I suspect that even Marx would say, in response to your question, if marriage is working, leave it alone, unless you can show me that homosexuality somehow advances the cause of the proletariat, and not the predilections of the upper classes.

Perhaps we could say to homosexuals, as in that First World War cartoon, "If you can find a better hole, go to it." They don't have to tear down what they can't have, you know Foxy :)

Love,

Joe

Fox, "And how do you what kind of sex Gays or any couple for that matter, partake in that has a negative impact on anyone else?"

No need for a national health campaign for those young bare-backing gays and bisexuals to wear a condom then?

No worry either that young women are being pressured against their commonsense and inclination to be 'bum girls', putting their health, wellbeing and life and that of their unborn children at risk?

However those issues and others have been explained to you by dozens of concerned posters before today, but you choose to ignore, why?

Dear Joe,

Marriage should be between a spouse and a
spouse - not a gender and a gender. People
should be allowed to marry the person they
love and publicly celebrate their commitment,
and have legal security. Gays are not allowed
these privileges simply because we have
decided there is only one "right" form of
marriage. I find that wrong. I find that being
committed for life to one partner - is far healthier for
our society - than having multiple partners.
That applies to both heterosexuals and gays.

Anyway, I can see that we have different
opinions on this issue. You're entitled to
yours, of course - and I'm entitled to disagree with
you. Your reference to the way you think all
gays have sex - is out of my sphere of experience.
I'll simply accept what you know but I am not
in a position to agree or disagree. I frankly
find that an individual's sex life is - none
of my business. Nor what I do in private is
anyone else's business.

In any case, I have no further wish to discuss this
matter any further. I have expressed my views. I
fully understand yours. I don't see anything
productive being achieved by going round in circles.

See you on another discussion.

Spruikers of anal sex can make their own choices and be responsible for them. One doesn't expect that political and gay activists would ever take responsibility for any negative negative consequences from normalising anal sex and other risky sex.

Although it is the health system and the taxpayer who ultimately must pick up the tab.

Where girls and young women are concerned, the ONLY choice is to never have sex, to refuse it outright, where a request is made for anal sex, or more likely the offender just bullies them, "Everyone does it, the ABC says so", or tries it on without asking. Bisexuals present as very high risk.

The problem is however that girls and young women cannot exercise informed choice because there is no legal requirement and there should be, for the man to disclose prior if he has ever had sex with another male.

//The problem is however that girls and young women cannot exercise informed choice because there is no legal requirement and there should be, for the man to disclose prior if he has ever had sex with another male.//

The logical corollary of this, of course, is that man should be allowed to have sex with as pox-ridden VD incubators as he wants and not disclose it, provided that all those clap-mongers were female. Because in beach's world, only those disgusting poofs spread veneral diseases.

Remember: She may look clean - but you can't beat the Axis if you get VD.

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OTB,

You seem to be genuinely concerned about young women
and females in general and their sexual practices.

Perhaps you could start your own discussion on the
subject - both on the risks involved on various risky
sexual habits and unprotected sex.

Just a suggestion.

This discussion has now finished for me.

Cheers.