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Should children of illegal immigrants be entitled to a public education?

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Paul and Suse,

I could be wrong but my understanding is that there were nine or ten times as many children in detention at the time of the 2013 election than there are today.

And the kids on Nauru could swim and skim stones and troll through the shopping centre if they wanted to, but it's not compulsory. Schooling might be though ?

And not all those currently in detention are Muslim, is that right ?

Keep trolling :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 20 January 2016 8:58:20 AM
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Joe, what took place under Labor was disgusting and deserves our condemnation, but to make reference to it to simply justify today's governments action is irrelevant, the here and now is what we have to be most concerned with.
As for your claims about shopping, fishing and skimming of stones, baseless nonsense, which you use to make light of circumstance these poor children, through no fault of their own, now find themselves in.

You could also read the definition of trolling.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 21 January 2016 5:22:13 AM
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Dear Sonofgloin,

Sorry for the late reply.

The bible itself is ambiguous about whether sons should pay for the sins of their father - on the one hand there is Deuteronomy 24:16, but on the other there is also Exodus 34:7.

Nevertheless, my personal view is that sons should pay for those sins of their father that were committed before they were born, but not for those that were committed afterwards.

Why? because while the parents can exercise their free will both before and after, until the child was born (or at least conceived) to these particular parents they could back-off and choose not to be born to them, but perhaps wait for a better pair of parents.

This however is irrelevant to this particular discussion because making the child of someone who is locked up in immigration-detention go to a public/state school is against the best interest of the child, so not sending them is not a punishment.

When the state detains your parent, the state becomes your enemy. At this time a child would naturally want to stay with their parents rather than leave them and go to a place where they would be indoctrinated with their enemy's belief-system, often condemning their very parents. Moreover, as the parents would be unable to work while in detention, they have all the time in the world to lovingly educate their children themselves and teach them their own family-values. How more so when they are likely to be deported anyway, so the child will never need to be confused with the ways of those who are about to kick them out. Children should stick to their parents through thick and thin while the latter are oppressed.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 22 January 2016 7:21:26 PM
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Loudmouth
You are right about the Australian government opening
The gates of the detention centre.
It was on the Tv news one night.
The parents and their children are free to go to the beach or
Do whatever they want there now.

Foxy, Suesonline,
and those in favour of separating children from their parents
And putting them in the care of strangers should understand how
Traumatic this would be for the children. The aborigines still
Grieve over the stolen children generation.

Mrs Griggs, should have realised this, if she really had the welfare
Of the children at heart.

I think she was also using the issue to wield a big political stick
Against the Liberal party.

She never spoke out so strongly when the Labour Party had 10times more
Children in there. It was very selective timing.

I know she was giving a report, but that still didn't stop her from
Speaking out in a strong manner against all the children the Labour
Party had in detention before they lost the election.

There are thousands of grown men also coming on illegal boats into Europe and here
Who Are 20-30years old and never been to school

It comes as a shock to them that in Europe and the West people
Actually, study for years and work all there lives to gain their comfortable
Lifestyles they think it is just handed out for free.

There are some lovely families and good people who come too
Posted by CHERFUL, Friday, 22 January 2016 8:46:11 PM
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Exodus 34:7 maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation."

Yuyutsu......a well found verse that defeats my biblical premise. Thanks for the effort.
Posted by sonofgloin, Saturday, 23 January 2016 2:08:37 PM
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Of course the refugee children are offered education. This is a total nonsense. Whether the parents want them to be educated away from their backward useless religion is something else.
Save your chat for something of relevance such as why the ABC at great cost to us, supports islam. The most misogynistic, cruel, despotic and ignorant religion on the planet. Forget christianity, that was finished up by the ABC years ago.
Posted by JBowyer, Monday, 25 January 2016 7:52:14 AM
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