Foxy,

I'm sorry that I assumed that you had an adequate grasp of the English language and understood what the phrase "playing the game" meant.

If politics was a game Abbott thrashed Juliar and Dudd. Bringing down two sitting PMs and winning an election as PM puts TA in a very select group. I am also amused at how left whingers think that they have a clue as to how the liberal party works.

Turnbull was chosen as the face of the libs because he is more acceptable to the left, and will guarantee a coalition government for at least 3-6 more years, but has learnt his lesson that he needs the support of caucus to stay in power.

Abbott has a lot of support in the liberal party, maybe not for the position of PM, but certainly can influence how a significant proportion of the caucus will vote. While Turnbull does not need to worry about TA trying to retake the position of PM, MT can't ignore TA if he wishes to remain at the top.

Paul,

Nearly all the surplus funds donated by the CFMEU has come from corrupt dealings, and comes with strings attached, so the $650 000 for which the Greens act as the CFMEU mouthpiece is corrupt. And SHY is having to repay $8500 of illegally claimed money.

Shadow, you are becoming pathological when it comes to donations to The Greens. I hate to shatter your delusion but there is no evidence that The Greens breached any laws, state or federal, when accepting donations from the CFMEU. Can you point to any findings in a court of law, or by a properly and legally constituted authority, which supports your delusion. The NSW ICAC made a number of adverse findings against Liberal Party members in relation to accepting illegal political (and other) developer funded donations. The law in NSW is clear, a political party must not accept donations from developers the Liberal Party breached that law.

Paul,

You are becoming psychotic in trying to defend the corrupt deals between the unions and the Greens.

It has been proven beyond reasonable doubt that the CFMEU has committed many criminal acts to fill its coffers, and so obviously the money that Dinner Tally accepts for the greens is dirty money from the proceeds of crime.

If the Greens had a shred of dignity it would not only refuse to take these proceeds of crime, but also back away from doing the dirty work in the senate for these organised criminals. But sadly the Greens MPs are following in the tracks of Eddie Obied and Bill Shorten.

Shadow, you continue to go around in circles, off topic, you were the one who broached the subject, assisted by Beach, of The Greens, political donations, CFMEU. nothing to do with the unpopular Tony Abbott. My last post answered your question clearly, which has been answered many times in the past by me. There is no evidence of wrong doing on the part of The Greens or the CFMEU in relation to donations made by that union to The Greens. No one other than you have suggested otherwise, those donations were fully and properly disclosed and are now on the public record.

Please consider that subject closed. Is this the response you have been trolling for? I hope you are now satisfied.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Peter Costello tells us in his memoirs that when
Tony Abbott was elected Party Leader - the general
reaction was - "What Have We Done?"

So, I don't think that you know as much about what
Liberals really think as you think you do.

As for my command of the English language?
I'll match mine with yours an day.
BTW: How many languages do you speak?
I speak several. And I have post graduate qualifications
in English.

Fox, "And I have post graduate qualifications in English"

Do tell. In creative writing and fiction?

Hasn't helped you with any balance.

Google some more David Marr or Ellis.