Foxy,

Again please read what I write before posting nonsense.

TA does not have enough support to return to the leadership, but has enough support from MPs and party members to have influence.

Perhaps you can find a political commentator that says different?

Paul,

Considering that it was Adam Bent that wanted to spend the lot, your maths is off. Maybe you got light fingered Rhiannon to do the calcs.

Dear Paul,

I have to admit that I did admire Tony Abbott
for standing up to Murdoch for his Chief of Staff,
Peta Credlin and also despite the pressure at the
time - for standing up for Bronwyn Bishop. Too bad
that she didn't return the favour to him.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Of course Tony Abbott has an influence on his group
of hard-core supporters. No one is questioning that.

Foxy,

FYI definition of a power broker is:

a person who deliberately affects the distribution of political or economic power by exerting influence or by intrigue.

For example, the greens do not have enough senators to control the senate, but have enough to influence policy.

Dear Shadow Minister,

He does not have the numbers (yet) to have much
of an impact in the Liberal Party - hence the
successful ousting. Malcolm Turnbull beat him
hands down. What the future holds - whether the
numbers will increase we'll have to wait and see.

It was the forward thinking progressive people in the Labor Party, people like Ben Chiffley and Doc Evatt, who after WWII had a vision for Australia. These people believed in Australia and its people. They believed Australians deserved their place in a modern world. Their vision seen the nation establish it very own car industry, undertake monumental projects like the Snowy Mountains Scheme and provide a better life not only for the native born, but also for ten's of thousands of reffo's from a war torn Europe who, through hard work and grit, made a new life for themselves and their families in a foreign land far from their place of birth. Despite the negativity of the conservatives in society, with their howls of indignation, cries of "It can't be don't" Australians with socialists determination achieved great things post war. All was not perfect, particularly for our indigenous people who deserved better, but in the main things were better for the majority, thanks to people with the foresight in the Labor Party.

Still today we have the conservative knockers who denigrate the hard working Australian. calling them lazy and over paid. When it comes to the car industry ,Beach knocks the worker with his union bashing, but makes no comment on the decision making parasites in the board rooms of Tokyo or Detroit.

Paul1405,

What you are admitting (boasting?) is that Greens and Labor value the political donations from their mates the CFMEU so much that they are prepared to ignore the self-incriminating admissions made in the Unions Royal Commission and before Courts.