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Australia has a culture - Multiculture is NOT required

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Fellow_Human,

Your statements are false.

The Islam cutlure has a 'fixed in time' frame of reference and set of values.

Even if different Muslims practise it a little differently, there is a never ceasing 'pull factor' towards a central theme.

That's why Muslims do not integrate into another culture but tend to destroy and overwhelm others' culture over time.

Please details what are 'the natural laws of cultural evolution'? Are they laws that you made up?
Posted by GZ Tan, Thursday, 5 October 2006 8:40:49 AM
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GZ Tan,

Islam is a religion although it influenced many cultures such as Arabic and European. You need to move on from your grudge to have a constructive opinion.

PS: There is no 'correct' or 'false' in opinions. Are you still at school?
Posted by Fellow_Human, Thursday, 5 October 2006 9:42:20 AM
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Fellow_Human,

FH said: "There is no correct or false in opinions".

Is this another 'LAW' that you just made up, after attending school yesterday?

Obviously you didn't like my earlier comments. You think they are non-contructive, grudging? Is that your way of saying my opnions are incorrect or false?

Unlike you, I am quite able to take a few steps back and have a fresh look at things.
After half a year of absence, not much have changed. You in particular, just the same evasive person, never intellectually capable of responding to challenges.

I have a technical background and so I do not use the word LAW (as in laws of physics) in a flippant manner, unlike you.

Islam asides, here now is another direct challenge for you.

Please explain what are your claim of 'natural laws of cultural evolution'? Are they laws that you made up?
Posted by GZ Tan, Thursday, 5 October 2006 10:30:06 AM
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GZ Tan,

Too hot under the collar again. OK, let me try and step up to your IQ.

A basic definition of a culture is a set of habits, traditions and social rythms (I will avoid ‘law’ since you are allergic) that dominates the society and mutually influence it.

Here is an example on Australia:

Australian culture moved from aboriginal to Anglo (ie colonies cultures) where a set of habits and traditions were widely accepted. In the same token, other traditions were considered alien and / or unpopular. Smoking was a good thing, drink driving was OK and the ‘normal’ woman was the one who stayed at home and looked after the kids. Sunday church was a must and pre-marriage baby was not on.

50 years later we evolved. With growth, migrant intake, growing awareness of the environment and better understanding of the world around us, above set of habits and traditions have drastically changed. In today’s cultural definition, an Australian would travel more, read more, eat & wear colorful food and clothes, don’t smoke as often and don’t drink and drive. They can be secular or religious, married or living together.

Both are Australian culture with probably 50 years a part. The simple point is everything evolves
Posted by Fellow_Human, Thursday, 5 October 2006 2:29:06 PM
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FH did you ever bother to read this topic from the top?
Maybe you should and a few things will become clearer for you.
I've already defined culture and explained quite a bit about ours.
Do try not wasting everybody's time with half thought out repeats.
Posted by T800, Thursday, 5 October 2006 9:20:16 PM
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FH,

I don't have a problem if someone correctly states a 'law' scientifically and logically, which you are not able to do.

Your Australian example is pathetic and simply show you've lost the plot.

How about painting a couple of scenarios on Islamic cultural evolution, based on your non-existence 'natural laws of cultural evolution', that everything evolves:-

(1). After 500 years, the 'holy' month of Ramadan will be pretty much like X'mas with Father Ramadan riding a camel in shopping centres giving out lollies to singing and cheering children. Needless to say fasting in hunger will be optional then.

(2). After another 500 years, Muslim pilgrims will have the choice of going to either Mecca or Beijing, a second holy city due to Asian cultural influence.

If you think the above Islamic cultural evolution can never happen, no matter how long, then why not? Can you think of one possible cultural evolution in Islam?

Very simple, like I said earlier Islam cutlure is 'fixed in time'. It does NOT and will NOT evolve (not unless Quran is re-intepreted from time to time, which will never happen either).

That's why there can be no such thing as 'natural laws of cultural evolution'. You did not think deep enough.

Hence just like I mentioned:-

"Muslims do not integrate into another culture but tend to destroy and overwhelm others' culture over time" !!
Posted by GZ Tan, Thursday, 5 October 2006 10:44:42 PM
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