Mikk,
Liar! Muslims were worse 100 years ago, remember a little thing called the Armenian Genocide? There was also the Greek Genocide, 400,000 Greeks were massacred in Ottoman territory during WW1, the Assyrian Christian purges in Iraq led by the Kurds, anti Shia massacres etc etc.
100 years ago our grandfathers were also facing human wave assaults from Turkish Jihadis screaming "Allahu Akbar" as they charged across no man's land in the Dardanelles, Syria and Palestine.

"All wars are over control of land and territory...These terrorist attacks are exactly that."

Sorry Cherful, but you've fundamentally misunderstood the motivations of ISIL and its adherents. Sure they require some territory to fund their programme. But they already have that.

ISIL is of the view that the end-times are near. The prophecies see their caliphate as the harbinger of the return of the Mahdi which will be followed within 19 years by the final judgement day. To instigate the end-times, the armies of 'Rome' must be battled and defeated and 'Rome' (or perhaps Constantinople) occupied. So they are interested in causing the unbelievers to accept the battle that will initiate the glorious time.

Occupation of Europe is not a priority although conquest in whatever form of Rome would be seen as a partial fulfillment of the prophecies. Equally the reversal of what bin Laden called the tragedy of Andalusia (ie the Christian reconquest of Spain) would be seen as a major plus by the caliphate.

For the individual suicide bombers, the aims are a bit more complex. First they are soldiers and slaves of the caliphate and therefore are obligated to follow its dictates. But they are also after individual salvation. They believe that dying in war for Allah elevates them above other Mohammedans. They get a express pass into Paradise and the ability to nominate their family to get a similar pass. And of coarse they also get their 72 permanently virginal wives. (allah had to find over 500 virgins yesterday!).

We fundamentally misunderstand the nature of this war if we think its over territory and resources. The war with ISIL is a war over ideas and world-views. We can, if we choose, easily defeat them militarily. But defeating the ideology is a different matter. The best we can hope for is to isolate ourselves from it and to sanitise our society of it ie keep its adherents out of our nation.

However the current crop of Quislings ruling Europe seem to be actively inviting the threat in. Europe will, if it isn't already, rue the day.

Most of the refugees marching into Europe are Sunni Muslims.

Are we not at war with certain Sunni muslims.

Is it really Assaud they are fleeing from, not so much Isis.

These muslims staged a big uprising against Assaud
storming into Syrian cities by the thousand and thousands.

As we see in Europe big hoards like this can
lead to anarchy and overthrow of government.

Assuad then decided it was war and turned the army on them

Bear in mind the history of the Ottoman Empire in The middle east,
they were muslims and slaughtered Europeans wherever they could
find them.
Putin probably is reading the situation with Assuad
better than the West is, because he would understand the history
of European slaughter in Europe and the middle east under the
muslim ottoman empire.

There would have been the rapes that conquest brings.
Assuad and the people around him look more like a mixed ethnic bloodline of Europe and Arab bloodline to me, whereas the Sunni muslims staging revolts in the streets of Damascus etc, are pure sunni Arab.

Putin may be protecting a related bloodline in Assuad and the tribe around him. Just a thought I wondered about. Going on the very
European looks of some of the people around Assaud and reporters reporting from the capital Damascus.

These territorial hostilities have long historys.

I think we can all agree that all races, countries and religions have massacred others at some time in the past. I doubt the current terrorists have killed as many people as the Germans did, and the rest of the countries fighting in WW 1 and 2 wars, back in those dark days.

The question still remains as to how, in these days of such ease of travel, do we stop anyone going to another country with the intention of committing terrorist acts if they really want to?
You can rant and rave all you want about Muslims, Islam, ISIS or whomever, but I don't see any answer....

Mhaze
Sorry Cherful, but you've fundamentally misunderstood the motivations of ISIL and its adherents

I think my assessment of the true motivation of Isis, is spot on.
Because they want to think of themselves as holy and not of the devil
like the Infidel, they cannot think of their behaviour as being
satanic, so they delude themselves and the world instead that
their motive is holy, therefore it is justified and not murder.

Religion has been used as a smoke screen for basic nasty Human motives
plenty of times before, by the Christian religion,too.

Isis proclaim all these holy excuses, but it is their actions that
say loud and clear, what their base motives are.

When they say, "they want a muslim caliphate world wide,"
Compare it to what Hitler and the Nazis said,

We want a German state of blonde haired blue eyed Germans
worldwide.
Sound familiar?

Right across history,excuses by races and countries,
abound, as to why right was on their side, and when they
can't find a just sounding reason they will play the holy war card in
the name of religion.

But the end result is always ethnic cleansing and the taking of
territory and of course the women.
Typical male territorial behaviour to bring territory under
their control by shooting all the males and taking the females
to produce their offspring only into the territory.

Every male in every species on this planet does this.

Lions will kill the cubs of another male when they manage to take
his territory and take the females to breed their own cubs, this is a genetic survival advantage to them.
What Isis is doing is almost text book, animal and human behaviour.

Look past the excuses and right sounding reasons for wars in
the history books, and you will soon see, that the end result
was the taking or keeping of territory by one side or the other.
and the cleansing of the non related bloodline off the land.

Rich territorial resources are fought over as well.

"Every male in every species on this planet does this...What Isis is doing is almost text book, animal and human behaviour"

Aha! So the lesbian feminists are right then. Boys ARE made of 'Snips & snails & puppy dogs tails' and all manner of things disgusting and can do no better. No chance of making a boy into an imperfect girl, even. It IS their genetic inheritance and there is no changing destiny. Whereas 'Wonderful Womyn', Earth Mothers all, are truly marvelous creations, but NOT of a male God.

The only question that remains is how to get that Feminist Caliphate in place and pronto! That useful idiot Malcolm Turnbull is helping for a time, but he too will be up against the wall when the time comes, eh what?

Yes I know, just another stupid bloke and stupid because men can never see things your way.