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Asylum Seekers - Who has the answer?

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Dear Rehctub,

It is immoral to physically block people's way, not allowing them to enter one of God's wonderful continents. The only exception is self-defence, such as if they carry a contagious disease or if they are reasonably likely to commit crimes against you or to terrorise you. It may even be argued that you may briefly stop them at the border to ensure that they do not fall into any of those categories.

That said, you are under no obligation to give them anything, not even food and medical-care, certainly not jobs. Once this stupid refugee-convention is withdrawn, you will not even be obliged to protect them, not even to save them if they drown - only not to physically block their way.

In summary, although they will be able to enter this continent, the gates to Australian society will remain locked. If they come for economic gain, then they will find that there isn't any - and will inform their friends behind accordingly.

BTW, they won't be taking any jobs: although Australians would technically be able to employ them, their wages and other expenses would not be recognised as a tax deduction.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 6:33:23 PM
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The people are fleeing from over crowded camps where many have been up to four years. There is lack of food and medicine. Another winter will kill off many.

One doesn't take babies and carry the age on their backs, if where they are is safe.

Many are women with five six young kids, pushing a stroller, on the way to link up with fathers etc who have gone ahead.

There are over four million displaced people in the region, under canvas, with no income.

Added to their woes, the world has cut aid money. I believe many are on one meal a day.

They have als come to the realisation, they will not be returning to their homes in any foreseeable future.

Yes, they are seeking a better life. One where they are not in danger starving or freezing to death.
Posted by Flo, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 12:10:42 AM
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well Flo, you.ve hit the nail on the head 5 to 6 kids.

These families know full well they cant even provide for one child, yet they choose to have 5 or 6 and there in lies the problem.

But, as sad as life is, is it our problem?

Now if we had no homeless here, or zero unemployment , money to burn and no debt, we may be in a position to help, but that's simply not the case Flo.

So we are therefore faced with a huge choice Flo, what do we go without to provide for these invaders, remembering, we cant provide for our own.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 3:52:04 PM
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What sort of men would go off and leave their wife & children behind ?
Would you do it ? I wouldn't !

The major problem is that they have made a mess of their countries and
why would anyone think they would not make a mess of any country where they come to a stop ?
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 3:59:01 PM
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Maybe we should look to other countries to see if someone else has the 'answer'.

It seems Japan doesn't have too many problems with its Muslim population nor any issues with boat people etc.

I wonder why... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/30/japan-says-it-must-look-after-its-own-before-allowing-syrian-refugees-in
Posted by mhaze, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 8:38:43 PM
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Mhaze, well Japan does not have any trouble with moslems because they
do not have any moslems.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 12 November 2015 7:23:04 AM
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