So what is the matter with a lefty rat-bag running the Liberal side of govt; it's the best choice you ever made. There does not have to be any legalisation of Turnbull he was unanimously elected leader by the lefty faction of the Coalition party.

The door was widely opened for Turnbull by his colleague Abbott. So a decision had to be made, and thankfully it was the right one. Turnbull now enjoys probably 85% of the AU voting public. So he will be quite safe as long as he does the right thing by Labor.

Why does keeping asylum seekers penned up like mongrel dogs have to do with stopping boats. Can,t we stop boats without incarcerating kids and women. Or is that because of something Abbott promised.

He had no problem breaking every other promise he ever made so why the difference with locking up innocent people.

Only this morning we had reports of Islamist killing Christians in refugee camps and taking the girls to satisfy their filfthy lusts. The left are totally clueless as the immorality of their own lives blind them from thinking anywhere near rational. They say they don't want to discriminate and hence have already endorsed rapist, thugs and those who hate Western culture coming into this country. It is a shame their croc tears were not towards the unborn. Unfortunately those who have taken UN posts and have authority have no intention of trying to preserve Christian culture. Every other culture is exalted. Thank God that in the end that God will have His way. The Israel hating brigade will be defeated. Unfortunately much blood is to be shed before that happens. Whether you call it ww3 or whatever we are in for much bloodshed. The regressives are going to reap on society what they have sown.

The first element of any viable solution is to withdraw from the refugee-convention. That convention is paradoxical and ties our hands, preventing any ethical or humane solution.

This will allow us decouple the permission to physically enter this continent from accepting all arrivals into our society along with its social benefits.

I find it immoral to deny others entry to this continent (unless they pose a criminal/health/terrorist threat), but we are under no obligation (other than this stupid refugee-convention) to give them anything just because they somehow managed to physically arrive.

Finally, bureaucracy can only work with rigid formal criteria that are divorced from reality. Currently these are supplied by the refugee-convention. In contrast, real people are able to use common-sense - and would indeed use it when it comes down to their own money, so determination of "who is a refugee that ought to be supported" should rest with ordinary real people: those people (and their NGOs) whose hearts go out for the people that arrive and are less fortunate then themselves, should be able to help them with their own money. On the other hand, common-sense will detect economic migrants, so such people will find no economic benefits and no incentive to come to Australia.

Yuyutsu, whats immoral about it, we cant even provide for ourselves anymore, and we still have a car industry of sorts.

If these people had skills to offer, and if we had jobs in need of those skills maybe then, but to simply open the flood gates is just not a sensible approach.

Doog, these people in detention came here illegally. End of story!

Currently there 105,237 people sleeping rough in Australia including many homeless children compared to less than 300 in detention. Where is the anger to support the the unseen and uncollected homeless.

At least those in detention have a bed and meals supplied.

http://www.homelessnessaustralia.org.au/index.php/about-homelessness/homeless-statistics

I don't understand what Crackup means.
We do not have a boat people problem thanks to Tony Abbott.
Granted we do have Rudd/Gillard boat people problem and sooner or later
we will have to say to them that they have to go back and perhaps those
that caused them to flee have forgotten all about them by now.

We cannot be expected to look after them for the rest of their lives.
Most are youngish men and they can go back and sort out their own
countries mess.

Yes Rechtub we will find a recession soon enough as neither party is
prepared to face that which is breathing down their necks.
I notice in the last few days both Turnbull & Morrison are talking up
growth growth growth. Someone has to take them by the whatevers and
and give them a lesson on "The End of Growth".

It is strange that so few economists have woken up to why all countries
are facing lowering growth and indeed some like Germany are effectively
already at zero growth.
Most economists are still at the point of wondering why austerity,
high interest rates, low interest rates or stimulus don't do what they are supposed to do.

They do not understand what has happened energy and its ERoEI.