Suse,

What I, and a lot of others, are suggesting is that there should be armed, trained, individuals who are not uniformed etc., but who may react when something like this happens.
Such people could be ex-police, ex-service (army etc.,) and people selected from that well trained group IPSC.

As you probably wouldn't be familiar with IPSC, here's a video of Australia's best (at the time/might still be).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIowLTHCjPs

Is Mise, do you really think anyone returning fire at a big event like the concert in Paris would be able to safely return fire without hitting innocent people, even if these security guards were able to get to the hotspots quick enough in such a crowd?

Would these security guards be armed with pump action rifles etc that the terrorists had? If so, how would the guards hide this fact?

Sadly, I think that if someone wants to be a terrorist and cause mass deaths, there is not much anyone else can do about it if the terrorism is well planned.
Think of all the deaths by guns in schools in America. Even though Americans are apparently all armed with guns, these schools still lose many students before the shooter usually shoots himself dead.
If they can't deal with random mass shootings in a trigger-happy place like the US, what chance have people in other countries got?

Suseonline, "Think of all the deaths by guns in [gun free zone] schools in America"

There, I fixed that for you. The opposite of what you said, as usual.

There is so much more that it would be wasting time with the mantras of a hoplophobe such as yourself. Left to you there would be no resistance to murderous terrorists, because you would invent some wild rationalisation to suit your prejudice.

There is an argument for Australian police to be permitted and encouraged to voluntarily retain and concealed-carry their service pistol along with official ID when off-duty.

Fact is, offenders carry theirs.

Suse,

I wasn't talking about security guards but about well trained civilians armed with their personal choice of pistols.
Despite what you may have read in the media or have seen on TV, a good pistol shot can hit man sized targets in vital areas at 100 metres.

Such civilians might be within a few yards of a terrorist when he/she first raises a weapon.

Here's another video, this time of a Cowboy Action shooter.
He is of course using guns that are exactly the same as guns that were in use well over 100 years ago so today's terrorists would have an advantage (!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1BwUJ4--Qw

Is Mise,

Trust you to confront Suseonline with two of her extreme phobias, legal firearms and white men.

If you could have added a Christian priest that would have been the Big Three and 'KABOOM', Suseonline explodes.

Is Mise there is already a precedent for armed persons in civies just
being in with the possible victims.
Air Marshalls on aircraft. Most have probably forgotten that when we
fly there might be one the aircraft with us.

That we have to even be discussing a subject like this says it all.
I did read one encouraging item recently.
In Germany a number of Syrian moslems are going to churches and
inquiring about converting to Christianity.
Seems a bit odd to me, if you were unhappy with your deity why would
you look for another one ?
Perhaps they think the particular book was written by terrorists.

Rehctub said;
I for one do not think you are paranoid

Well I am paranoid about this subject.
Anyone who is not paranoid does not understand what is going on.
I can mix my two concerns here, what happens with these people here
when the BIG crash comes ? I suspect that they will be totally unable
to cope. Their poor IQ levels will make it very difficult to obtain
work in competition with the rest of the population.
Unemployment benefits will inevitably decline making things worse.