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Gender reassignment promoted by Education Department

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Father Joe, it seems you can't take a trick on this one, claiming a website is promoting something it is clearly not, then claiming the organisation behind that web site is government funded when clearly it is not. If the site was government funded so what, it is providing a valuable public service.

When it comes to a total waste of public money, there is none bigger waste than the $243.8 million committed by the Federal government over four years to the ridiculous 'National School Chaplaincy Programme'. Paying religious zealots vast sums of money to enter schools and promote bigoted nonsense with their superstious misinformation to children is a blight on society! And that's to put it mildly.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 5:28:00 AM
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I think the website is great. It tells teenagers that whatever they feel they are not the only one in the world that feels that way. I can remember being a teenager and wondering if there was something wrong with me when I started to have wet dreams, but there was nobody I could talk to. Later my mother told me she was aware of it. I was angry at her because she could have set me straight and didn't do it. I am heterosexual, but I imagine I would have been much more disturbed if I had doubts abour my sexual nature in addition to the doubts about what was happening to my body.

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Posted by david f, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 6:02:00 AM
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As a teenager I often disliked my parents and felt very guilty about disliking my parents. Then I read a book which liberated me from my guilt. The protagonist, Ernest Pontifex, lived in the nineteenth century, had far worse parents than mine and hated them far more than I hated mine. He was depicted as a very decent man who broke off contact with his stifling parents. The book was The Way of All Flesh by Samuel Butler.

I read the book again this year and, to my surprise, still enjoyed it. One excerpt from the book:

"To me it seems that youth is like spring, an overpraised season--delightful if it happen to be a favoured one, but in practice very rarely favoured and more remarkable, as a general rule, for biting east winds than genial breezes. Autumn is the mellower season, and what we lose in flowers we more than gain in fruits. Fontenelle at the age of ninety, being asked what was the happiest time of his life, said he did not know that he had ever been much happier than he then was, but that perhaps his best years had been those when he was between fifty-five and seventy-five, and Dr Johnson placed the pleasures of old age far higher than those of youth. True, in old age we live under the shadow of Death, which, like a sword of Damocles, may descend at any moment, but we have so long found life to be an affair of being rather frightened than hurt that we have become like the people who live under Vesuvius, and chance it without much misgiving."

The website can do for teenagers who are in doubt about their sexuality what "The Way of All Flesh" did for me.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 6:05:13 AM
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I think Bazz's voice of dissent is at least somewhat valid.
They do eventually go too far with these things you know so its not really wrong to hold an alarmist position.

Lets take a look at whats going on in America.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/08/oregon-offers-minors-taxpayer-funded-sex-change-sans-parental-consent/

http://www.infowars.com/state-using-taxpayer-funds-to-implant-10-year-olds-with-birth-control/

Ive got questions to the commenters that think this is all ok.

Do you guys have a red line, or as attitudes change, will you keep moving the goalposts?

At what point do you think it's NOT OK for a child/adolescent to have this info given to them? And without parental consent?

What age is it ok for a stranger to sit down and discuss sex-change therapy, gender identity issues and birth control with your child, without your consent?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 7:38:57 AM
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Tony Lavis said;
Bazz, are you on something? The idea that sex for fun and not babies
is abnormal is frigging hilarious. Good luck selling that one, mate.

Where did I say anything like that ?
Just do not make up stories and attach them to me, it is a very
objectionable practice. I await an apology.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 7:41:21 AM
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'Sexuality and Identity' is only one page on what is a very good website for kids. Easy to read site where information is geared to kids needs, nothing like that was available in my day. My partners 9 year old granddaughter has recently experienced bullying at school, mainly from one other girl, and a couple of the boys joined in. Seems they don't like her black skin, part Cook Islander and part Maori who likes the surf and sun, so she is well colored at times. Her mum spoke to her teacher about it, and hopefully it will stop. I'll text her with that website and maybe she will find it helpful.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 7:44:45 AM
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