Surely you can't be serious Josephus and Bazz if you think the link you gave in any way promoted transgender lifestyles or gender reassignment surgery to kids?

Yes, it mentioned gay and transgender people, because, like it or not, they do live in our community, but just mentioning these people is not 'promotion' of their lives.
If that were the case, then wouldn't Josephus be 'promoting' the very lifestyle he hates, just by posting this thread?

I doubt anyone would willingly decide to be gay or transgender just for the fun of it, given the extreme hatred that ignorant people like you two go on about all the time.
Are we just going to have yet another homophobic thread from the usual subjects, just so they can spew their own brand of hatred all over this forum again?
Off you go then.....

Gawd Robert what a stupid comment, has anyone ever read anything so insane ?;
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Sexual activity between adult heterosexual couples where one or both
is infertile can't result in procreation either. Would you have those
past child bearing years stigmatised for sexual activity that can't
result in children?<

You cannot deny Suzie that it has been promoted as fashionable.
Even the gay pride parade is part of that promotion.
Ask any advertising man or women if it is not effective advertising.
All the protestations will not change the facts and the logic

"Gender reassignment promoted by Education Department"

I cannot work out whether you are deliberately or inadvertently misguided, Josephus...

Kids Helpline is a service of BoysTown, a not-for-profit organization established by the De La Salle Brothers. So if you need to protest to the Vatican remember that Pope Francis is touring the USA at the moment and might be slow in catching up with any email complaints.

" As to being born in the wrong body is nonsense and is totally at conflict with the DNA. The physical construction of our bodies is final proof."

Bazz, try decoding these and get back to us about your 'logic':

46,XX DSD; 46,XY DSD; Ovotesticular DSD; 46,XX testicular DSD; 46,XY complete gonadal dysgenesis.

I can see both sides of the argument in the responses and want to put forward some of the difficult thoughts and questions and I truly hope it doesn't offend anyone.

Its hard for straight people to understand gay people.
A lot of straight people have never been gay before so we don't understand what or why gay people are gay.

So, from a straight persons point of view...

We read this article and it says...
Let me quote.
Many common cultural and religious beliefs and attitudes may promote an idea that 'normal' is about being heterosexual and being a 'female' or 'male' based on the body you are born in.

From a straight persons point of view...

Is it not reasonable to think that if a person is old enough to have sex and when they take their pants off there's a penis there, but they are confused about whether they are a boy or a girl that that person doesn't have sexuality issues they have mental issues?
Is that not a reasonable question or assumption? - from a straight person?

Is it not reasonable for a straight person to ask if a gay person is at war with their own DNA? Incongruence? Out of kilter?

Another thing the article said was 'Questioning: Hasn't identified with any labels as above. Some young people identify themselves as "questioning" because this takes the pressure off having to have a label.

Most of the blokes I know would agree that "If your questioning, you're gay."

I understand that they have to put the information out there to help people who do have these issues.

My problem is it just seems too easy these days to be gay.
That making it accepted so much promotes it, embraces it, celebrates it.
And don't forget these are confused kids.
If you're gay it might be helpful, but if you're actually straight it might confuse the adolescent more.

I don't see any need to discriminate against gay people, but I can't be forced to embrace and celebrate their way of life either.

Armchair critic I see your point, and in fact I really feel turned off by the thought of lesbian sex, because I was born heterosexual and nothing on this green earth could have made me swing to the other side, at any stage of my life.
How about you?

Why would ANYONE choose to be gay?
They have to face stigma and inequality all their lives from people like Constance and Bazz, who seem to think they actually CHOSE to feel attracted to people of their own sex.
Do you see what I mean?

On the other hand, people can be born gay, but choose not to live that life and force themselves into marriage with someone of the opposite sex, because it is just easier not to cause angst amongst their family, religion and heterosexual friends.
These people do a terrible injustice to their spouses though, because they are living a life based on lies, and don't feel attracted to their spouses.
Is that fair, on either of them?

Thus, we need to support young people who think they may be gay, because it usually means they are gay. Otherwise many people will live a dreadful life of lies, leading to increased substance abuse and suicides.

The religious fundos like Father Joe believe ignorance is the way. To these zealots sexuality is a taboo subject for all, and particularly for children, with any discussion strictly off limits. Given the creationist nonsense these people peddle, can one expect anything less. The claim that the web site 'Kids Helpline' is promoting gender reassignment shows just how far some religious, with their homophobic paranoia, are detached from the reality of the real world. The religious bigots have always been the chief persecutors of those they perceive as different, including homosexuals.