otb,

"The Left fear Tony Abbott, because he is one of the few leaders in the West who isn't cowed by political correctness...."

Lol!....the "left" are kind of missing his every-second-day debacle act. People on twitter are even complaining that their entertainment has been severely curtailed!

Actualllly....the fed LNP feared Tony Abbott more - because he managed to turn a huge LNP election win into an ongoing 8 to 10 point deficit in the polls...

...and that's why they turfed him.

The End.

“Now, what about you direct some comment at the main thrust of my post above? “ writes OTB

OK, but I’m not going to pursue this irrelavance (w.r.t. DV) further than this, OTB's "populism" is about seeking superficial popularity based on nothing substantial. Something like the western Sydney bogans' appeal to the Ditch the Witch campaign, bullying made possible by the multimillion dollar resources of News Ltd and the radio shock jocks.

It achieved election of the mad monk, now skulking in the dustbin of history after being junked by his own party in its desperate attempt to recoup his losses.

OTB describes the wealth-creators, the 99% who live by personally creating goods and services, as "the emotional and short-attention-span mob, influenced by the chattering classes", and as "those who have not achieved all that much in life and are resentful".

These he contrasts with the acquisitions community, the leaners who enter the wealthy 1% by acquiring and investing the wealth created by the 99%.

But the term “populism” commonly deployed as a sneer by the acquisitions community refers to proposals that strike a chord among the general population, like Whitlam’s programme that brought Australia into the 20th century so spectacularly as that the throwbacks still haven’t managed to unravel it except around the edges.

Back to Ms Batty;

Reached 64% of her book. Anderson emerges as a religion-obsessed control freak seeking to deprive Ms Batty of personal autonomy by bullying abuse that escalates into indictable DV offences. Victoria has facilities to deal with this, and had an additional weapon against Anderson as he was on the run from charges of collecting kiddie-porn. But the grossly inefficient execution of the necessary processes and the mountain of ifs and buts protecting the offender left Anderson AT LARGE to do what he did.

Which brings me back to what I have been on about all along – end the violence by ending the impunity keeping the bashers free to bash.

[As an aside, there’s an interesting parallel between Anderson’s DV episodes and Abbott’s behaviour towards a female adversary in his University of Sydney student politics days]

This is the type of "real man" religions fosters!

The commission heard from a witness called AHA, who gave evidence that around 1970, from the time he was seven or eight, the well-respected pastor from the Pentecostal Christian denomination Assemblies of God, Frank Houston, would travel to Australia from New Zealand, with young Brian Houston (Hillsong leader) in tow, and stay at the boy’s home.
For about five years, it was claimed, Pastor Frank would go to where AHA was sleeping and molest him in the night. AHA said the abuse ceased when he reached puberty.

Full story with Hillsong's Brian Houston's self damming evidence to the Royal Commission is in 'The Saturday Paper'.

Runner, any evidence of this type of goings on in your church, if so has it been fully exposed or is it still hidden in the closet, I assume your not a member of 'Hillsong', or are you?

What that's about; "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

In this case of Churches its more like a "Dump truck full of rocks!"

Just noticed I didn't answer a question directed to me by Roscop.

Question: Julian, how do you think persistently using an offensive ad hominen "basher lobby" helps your arguments?

Answer: Basher lobby is a useful group identifying term for those who are lobbying to preserve impunity for bashers to remain at large where they can bash people.

"Answer: Basher lobby is a useful group identifying term for those who are lobbying to preserve impunity for bashers to remain at large where they can bash people."

or a simple way of disparaging those who understand the issue is a lot more complex than you are willing to address. No one here is advocating actual bashers be left at large as far as I'm aware. There are people pointing out that in an environment where the current predominance of the lie about the role of gender in DV leads to men being presumed to be guilty almost without regard to what actually occurs. There are those pointing out that if we want to reduce DV then we need all DV to be spoken out against. But that's all to hard for you so you stick with your lie about what others are doing.

R0bert