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Real men - Malcolm wants you.

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Way to go Malcolm! If you want to stop men from behaving violently then alienate them even more by declaring them to be not ‘real men’ and horror of all horrors –un-Australian.

Anyone who resorts to violent behaviour has serious issues about their own self-worth. Whatever has led them to that belief can only be made worse by bullying them into submissive behaviour. It could well be that they already do not have a strong sense of their own masculinity and all this kind of jingoism does is to make things worse. Let’s tell them they cannot play with the rest of the boys until they become ‘real men’. Let’s taunt them and deride them until they can tolerate it no further and stop their evil ways.

What a simplistic approach – as if all you need to do is bully someone enough and they will suddenly become detached from all the pain and insecurities that have dogged their lives from childhood. Who writes these reports into domestic violence? Let’s get the numbers down – it doesn’t matter how. It doesn’t matter where men take their suppressed violence as long as we get the numbers down. It doesn’t matter if they begin to beat up children or other men or act out their aggression in less violent but even more destructive ways. Let’s not bother to sit any of these men down and get to the core of why they behave violently. Who cares as long as the number of women who die becomes less? Just throw as much money as we can at it.

How about spending some of this money on educating women to dismiss rubbish like The Bachelor which encourages women into forming domestic relationships based on the attempt to replicate the romantic fantasies they see played out there? Hammer home the reality that two women are killed every week and that it is far too risky a venture to enter into for anyone who cares about their own safety. Help women take control before and not after.
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 24 September 2015 12:17:07 PM
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The irony is that the many including Malcolm want to bring people from cultures where domestic violence is rife and acceptable. Until sections of the community are addressed where the violence rates are astronomical you can be sure the outrage is somewhat fake. What also puzzles me is the number of 'educated' women who hook up with drop kicks. Its seems like Malcolm is not all that opposed to slogans as he so decried. This is one area where things are far more complex than what many want to admit. Our society by and large is reaping the fruit of its godless ideologies.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 24 September 2015 5:50:21 PM
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Judith Ireland in her article in The Sydney
Morning Herald tells us that some people will
hate what the Prime Minister has to say on
domestic violence.

She's not wrong.

As Ireland points out:

Australia has a shocking record on domestic violence.
And it is time Australia began to tackle this problem
in a more open way. Words are important. The language
that the Prime Minister uses shapes the parameters of
debate. They have the power to make concepts, arguments
and information mainstream and make us less squeamish
about the roots of why one in six Australian women are
sexually or physically abused by a current or former partner.

So when our Prime Minister says it is "un-Australian" to
disrespect women - he has made the campaign to end domestic
violence that much more achievable. This debate not only needs
to be had - but ways of solving this problem will only be
achieved by bringing this matter out into the open.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 24 September 2015 6:05:13 PM
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I'd like to see if there are stats on just who are the offenders, Australians, Imigrants etc and how many cases involve drugs.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 24 September 2015 7:23:25 PM
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While there is no excuse for belting women, who are generally weaker than men, it seems to me that many women, particularly the young, make very poor choices when it comes to males. The most obvious examples of this seen daily are attractive, well dressed young women hanging on to scruffy, dirty slobs displaying ample plumbers' cracks. If these creeps don't even have the respect to make an effort for someone who has gone to a lot of trouble to look nice for them, they simply have no respect, full stop, and they are exremely poor risks for the future.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 24 September 2015 7:24:41 PM
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rehctub

you have no chance of getting those stats. Women in some communities know that floggings have always been part of the culture. When Malcolm speaks of unaustralian in the case of dv he must be insulting many of the first people. Like Rudd he appears to need some ' moral ' issue to cover his treachery for the last 12 months. He can hardly use gw as Rudd used that one when it was convenient. Malcolm is showing how much he about spin.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 24 September 2015 7:33:03 PM
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