Hi Poirot, you might find this link interesting:

https://theconversation.com/to-change-attitudes-to-family-violence-we-need-a-shift-in-gender-views-44718

Suseonline,

The Justice was merely repeating the words of the Labor government that drafted the Act. That is the understanding and slant of Labor, although hopefully individual Labor politicians might see further than the women and feminist dominated industry and failed notions of 'Patriarchy'.

The Family Violence Protection Act 2008, s.5 uses 'person' and is not gender-specific as feminists would like it to be. See here,

http://tinyurl.com/o59e579

The feminist mantras have been questioned, and importantly funds for men's counselling and research are proposed,

<Dr Richard Fletcher, who heads the fathers and families research program at the University of Newcastle, said focusing on punishing and shaming men for intimate partner violence led to a favouring of arms-length approaches that did not directly involve men, or help them to change.

“The power analysis that says that domestic violence is simply an issue of power, and that men as a group seek to dominate women and have power over them ... I think that simplistic model is really strong in the sector, and I think it infects people’s thinking so that they don’t notice the complexity that’s in front of them,” he said.>

The news report added,
<The complexity of family violence can not be overstated
Throughout the week, the commission has heard how family violence affects women, children [including a specific look at Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children], the elderly, and the vulnerable. In coming weeks, it will hear about how other groups are affected, including people in gay, lesbian and other diverse relationships, men, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders generally, those in rural and remote areas, people from culturally diverse backgrounds, and people with a disability.>
http://tinyurl.com/n9upujp

It will be interesting for example to see if the Commission refers to such matters as grandparent alienation syndrome, which one often hears about when volunteering with the aged.

onthebeach I've been wondering if they will realise that they are overplaying their hand. Data and studies that utterly repudiate the idea of intimate partner violence being significantly gendered in any areas except sexual assault and the small proportion that lead to fatal assault are getting more and more accessible.

The contrast between the spin and what quantative (and qualitative where it's not constrained by feminist dogma) research is very conclusive that the claims of DV being something "Males do" is an invented construct rather than an evidence based.

I suspect that over time the current approach will backfire badly on feminists, the weight of evidence will eventually reach someone with both the voice and the courage to address it and things could change pretty rapidly from there.

R0bert

Sigh....as usual this topic degenerates into a feminist hate fest, and nothing much else.
All I can say is that I won't be happy until the 'small numbers' (66 this year so far) of intimate partner deaths is nil.

I don't care if all the politicians and justice system staff are apparently agreeing to abide by the rules of some really important (unknown, un-named) feminists, I just want to see the killings stopped.

Suseonline,

May you one day sigh for children too,

<Mother arrested for murder after eight children stabbed to death in Cairns

One of Australia’s worst mass killings, leaving eight children from the same family dead, has left the city of Cairns in shock.

The grim discovery of the bodies of children aged 18 months to 15 years was reportedly made by their adult brother at their home in Manoora, in the north Queensland city’s west.

The mother of seven of the children, 37, was being treated for stab wounds to the chest and was in a stable condition. Police said early on Saturday (local time) that she had been arrested for murder.>
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/dec/19/at-least-seven-children-killed-in-mass-stabbing-in-cairns

Good loving fathers grieving, see the photos. No Australians of the Year among them though.
http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/children-stabbed-to-death-in-the-cairns-suburb-of-manoora/story-fnj4alav-1227161862831

RObert,

A lot of people, politicians too, are guilty of suspending their own critical faculties and judgement and allowing others to do the thinking for them. "TV tells them so"You really have to wonder when so many women hang on the words of Oprah, her boy Dr Phil and some aged lesbian whose only claim to fame is that she proves audience greed and gullibility go together. Trained seals and fishy offerings.

Maybe Turnbull should be throwing small gifts to the highly impressionable and very easily led Q&A lemmings, $5 Chinese battery operated sex toys would go down well one imagines. Rainbow coloured, got that end covered too! Tres 'progressive'!

I have been surprised how even graduates (well, the humanities ones anyhow) swallow research half-truths, with sloppy feminist qualitative research providing abundant examples.

Fortunately young women are running screaming from the greedy, materialistic, dictatorial, self-obsessed feminists.

Regrettably, the Royal Commission into Family Violence seems to have been deliberately under-resourced. Even so, Royal Commissions can surprise.

Suzeonline:

“Sigh....as usual this topic degenerates into a feminist hate fest, and nothing much else.”
There is something else – it is the man as flawed human being hate fest.

OTB and Robert:

It is interesting how the feminists are quick to applaud Turnbull’s call for men to man-up when it suits them. He wants to get men to change their behaviour out of fear of being ostracized from the group called men. He wants the bond between men to be used to manipulate recalcitrant men into stopping their violence.

His attitude and those behind his report seem to be saying “‘do not stop your violent behaviour because it is the right thing to do but stop or you will be banished from the club”. My reading is that feminists abhor the existence of such a club and all the patriarchal overtones it exhibits but they seem only too happy to acknowledge its existence when it can be used to their advantage.

They will sell their own souls if it helps their control over powerful politicians and the government purse strings.