Poirot:

“I was pointing out a discrepancy - has anyone posted similar things in regards to male victims of DV on this thread?”

It is not a contest to see who can sling the most mud. It is quite possible that women contribute to the causes of domestic violence. To just pretend that it cannot be so is to bury your head in the sand. Each suggestion made to that end needs to be taken on face value and dismissed if there is no logic to it. You have the choice to just ignore it completely or to show why it is illogical.

It does not matter if there are an unequal number of questions put to women than are put to men. If you are genuinely trying to arrive at the truth you will want to listen to all points of view – you will want to listen to the points of view that men express. If you want to listen to more women’s views then there are places where that can happen. If you want to discuss men’s views with men then this is one place where it can occur. Just because the numbers are unequal does not mean that those views held by men are invalid.

There is a difference between expressing an opinion and being aggressive and it seems to me that numbers of people on the forum who behave aggressively are equally in proportion across both genders. Whilst aggression is present then very little constructive debate goes on. It is never excusable. Thinking that it is ok to be aggressive to people just because they have been aggressive to you or because it is all part of the ‘rough and tumble’ just turns a blind to the attitudes which need to be challenged because they are also lead to violence.

None of those quotes you listed contain any hint of aggression. They are simply opinions. You do not have to agree with them but if you do not want to hear men’s opinions then you do not have to listen to them.

“so how do you decide who is the violent criminal if the stories conflict and their is not independent evidence?”

The bruises are usually independent evidence.

“I agree with your broader premise once the bias in the system is adequately addressed but not while the system is so lopsided.”

That means leaving violent criminals at large to assault people until society has been restructured to deal with their feelings of systemic injustice. So the bashings continue until Godot arrives. Five dozen of them each year are fatal. Not acceptable to leave bashers free to bash. Better to lock ‘em up and lose the key.

Phanto,

"None of those quotes you listed contain any hint of aggression..."

I didn't highlight them as examples of aggression.

I highlighted them as examples where posters here have sought to attribute a portion of the blame to victims who happen to be female - noting that I hadn't seen anyone attempting to do the same in the case of male victims.

"It is not a contest to see who can sling the most mud."

There's more than one way to sling mud - some are adept at sprinkling it about liberally under the guise of virtuous and honourable discourse.

Your moralistic finger-waving in my direction is becoming a tad tiresome.

Poirot:

It has nothing to do with morals and everything to do with maintaining the integrity of the forums. When I point out your aggression and your egotism it is because the forums are not here to pander to the insecurities that you have which make you behave in this way.

Most people come here to discuss issues that are important to them and that is how it should be. Some people come here under the guise of caring about the issues but their real intent is to try and hurt others or to big note themselves. When that happens their behaviour should be exposed for what it is. All of us have a role to play in making sure that the discussion does not get hijacked by people who have their own agenda.

If you do not want your aggression or your egotism exposed then it is up to you to stop behaving in those ways. Every time you behave in that way then you run the risk of having it exposed.

Poirot, "I highlighted them as examples where posters here have sought to attribute a portion of the blame to victims who happen to be female"

How could that be when you objected to research done by women and reported by a women? Why would you want to bury it? Plainly it was your irrational belief in 'Patriarchy' that was at stake. Otherwise why would you be objecting to REAL science that calls SLOP feminist social 'research' into question?

Don't YOU have a son? If a mother cannot love her son enough to protect him from feminist lies that call him a potential molester, rapist and beater of girls and women, who will?

It is time for real women to man-up. You know as well as anyone else that Turnbull is playing politics to spike the guns of those taxpayer-funded feminist knobs in academia (who are shameless), the public bureaucracy and as consultants who, quite plainly, suck mightily from the public moneys allocated by government and precious little of the dough ever reaches the intended recipients.

Here again,
Research done by National Coalition Against Domestic Violence,
http://tinyurl.com/oxwsq7t

You need to asking yourself what stake you have in feminist fraud and why. It isn't only 'good men' who must stand up to lies and call them such.

onthebeach you might find this one interesting. Some points I'd not seen before

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/15503361_Patriarchy_and_wife_assault_The_ecological_fallacy

R0bert