OTB, I am not sure if many of the DV murders in Australia over the past few years were perpetrated by 'migrants' or not?
Do you have any stats on that?
Certainly, any migrant who is found guilty of DV should immediately be deported.

I do agree with you Armchair Critic in saying that prevention is better than cure, but anyone, even teenagers, would have to have been living under a rock to not be aware that DV is criminally wrong, or that any violence is wrong.

If they are brought up in a violent home or community, then the damage is done.
People aren't born violent.
If only the violent person could be removed permanently from the child's life before the damage is done....but I know that is only a pipe dream.

"If only the violent person could be removed permanently from the child's life before the damage is done....but I know that is only a pipe dream."

The violent criminal usually can if gaoled for a decade or more on the first offence. It's called prevention.

EmperorJulian without defending the violence I think your apprach is far too simplistic. That violent offender could have been goaded for the previous decade, under a system in denial about female violence they could have had violence committed against them over the previous decade all under the threat of loosing children, home etc if they walk. They could have been in the wash up of years of abuse where a biased family law and child support system are busy punishing them for walking out of an abusive relationship.

It is in some cases just a single bad person and someone unfortunate enough to have been blind to that when they got together but from what I've seen if's often far more complex than that and far less one sided than that.

Part of prevention is to get the message across loud and clear that violence is not OK regardless of the gender on either side of it. That emotional abuse is not OK regardless of the gender on either side of it. To work towards legal systems that give parties the best opportunity to move on with their lives following a seperation rather than enduring years of ongoing thuggery assisted by the government at the hands of the other party.

Its not an easy topic but just looking at events that make the news or the covenient part of the body count does not give an understanding of the issues or help towards reducing the incidence of serious DV in our community.

R0bert

Suseonline, "Do you have any stats on that?"

You are the poster who refuses outright to provide any evidence or links herself, says they are not necessary in her case and that she doesn't read links/evidence she doesn't agree with.

This is what I said,
<Further, while the feds are quite willing to grandstand and purport to ban a visit by an alleged partner-beater to Oz, there is NO, NIL, NADA screening of the suitability of migrants and claimed 'asylum-seekers' to ensure that SOBs, male and female, with a predilection and cultural tradition of resolving ordinary disputes with violence, esp, weapons, are given the lowest priority, or better still, refused entry. My previous post refers,
onthebeach, Friday, 25 September 2015 11:38:22 AM
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=7006&page=3>
[Reference, onthebeach, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 10:53:15 PM
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=7006&page=18]

You would or should be aware from the many posts that have appeared on OLO and reports in the media. For starters, the comments of retiring NSW Police Commissioners have been cited on OLO many times before. Why do you imagine that Sydney has a special squad - again, as been mentioned in previous threads? What about the media reports of takeovers of outlaw motorcycle gangs by ethnic criminal gangs?

The essential point is that violent behaviour and anti-social behaviour do generalise. That may not apply to all 'domestic' violence, but it sure would apply to a large rump of the serious harm offences.

This thread opened with a plaintive plea on behalf of violent criminals – don’t diss them as it upsets them.
The opening post drew on the fact that every act of violent crime has its own particular context which means the whole pattern is complex and it’s “simplistic” (a weasel word) to focus on the ONE common factor in ALL violent crime inside the home and on the street - SOMEONE ASSAULTS SOMEONE.

The common context ensuring that violent crime is perpetuated is that the legal system is wishy-washy enough to allow violet criminals to prey on others. To see up close the real-world texture of just one facet of this common context – parole - go to https://www.change.org/p/minister-of-prisons-premiers-prime-minister-make-parole-boards-responsible-for-letting-repeat-rapists-and-murders-out-into-society . Use the run-on links to further pages to get the full picture of what is happening and what many, many decent people want done about it.

What people other than violent criminals and their sympathisers don’t want is violent criminals at large. So get them behind bars and leave them there. For society to walk and chew gum at the same time, direct attention ALSO (not instead) to pressures (but never legitimate excuses) leading some to assault people.

EmperorJulian:

I think you have made your one and only point several times over now. Are you trying to convince yourself of your solution?