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Real men - Malcolm wants you.

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Women do not do that for no reason where a man does not need a reason. A man confronted with a woman in that mood would move away, unless guilty and caught out.

A good movie but that is all it is.

That Indian female had the right attitude, whatever that bloke was being chastised for he was guilty. Women are not built in a way of aggression. That man just took his punishment, and all will be good.

The only way that bloke was going to get hurt, was his dignity, Dignity does not bleed or break.

Women are always mindful of, they have no where else to go. Men need to be mindful of prison is the only option.
Posted by doog, Sunday, 27 September 2015 4:47:09 PM
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Doog:
"Women are always mindful of, they have no where else to go."

But they should also be mindful that they did not have to go there in the first place nor do they ever have to go there again. Every young woman needs to learn from their elders that domestic relationships are not compulsory.

Any woman who enters into a relationship where they have a thirty per cent chance of being attacked has no sense of their own well-being. They can longer say they have not been warned. The warnings are out there on a daily basis. Women need to take control of their own destiny and refuse to take risks with such ridiculous odds.
Posted by phanto, Sunday, 27 September 2015 5:03:23 PM
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I believe all forms of Domestic Violence is utterly repugnant in our society, and for a physically superior male striking a woman is even worse if that's possible.

I don't care what the circumstances may be, if an arguing couple reach such a level of exasperation and mere words alone can't soothe their respective temper(s) - it's up to the male to simply walk away, leave the house, and in so doing allowing the 'heat' to evaporate, thus permitting all the tension and stress occasioned by the argument to subside ! If children are involved - REMEMBER THEM & THEIR WELFARE!

I've attended many DV situations, and believe me the majesty of a police uniform, more often than not, tends to compound and magnify the circumstances rather than calm it down.

Notwithstanding where the blame may lie, often it's the male who receives the most direct police attention, as they (police) consider that he's the one more likely, AND with the greatest capacity, to unleash a serious physical assault, than any female.

Remember, the police enter the premises completely 'cold', as such they have to make a split-second assessment of the event, and their primary duty is (a)the preservation of life, (b)to prevent a serious assault and, (c) a breach of the peace, should the event 'spill over' into a public street or place.

In all Domestic Violence issues, 'it takes two hands to clap' ?

Sometimes I feel so ashamed, to be a male ?
Posted by o sung wu, Sunday, 27 September 2015 5:23:56 PM
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Phanto, do you not think that many friends, relatives, police and medical staff have warned women in these sort of DV relationships to get out, or not to go there in the first place? If it were that easy, we wouldn't have this problem now.

Apparently, there are some men in our society who manage to keep their true violent nature hidden, or rarely exposed, until the women are well and truly in their grasp.
Slowly, these men they love start restricting their movements, money and friends, and then they find themselves trapped because he threatens their family members or friends, or says he will kill himself or her if she leaves him.

It is hugely complex and very difficult for anyone outside of the dysfunctional relationship to understand.
If our society could make it easier and safer for her to leave, or better still, remove him from the family home, then we could maybe decrease the injuries and deaths from domestic violence.

Why is it that if Brutus kills his wife at home, there is barely a whisper raised, but if Brutus happens upon a woman he has never met before alone in her own home, and kills her, all hell breaks loose? We need to change that mindset.
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 27 September 2015 6:09:37 PM
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Doog, I actually have a relative who, after leaving his cheating wife, has been dragged to he'll and back by what can only be described as an evil bitch of the highest standard.

In fact, this situation is living proof why our prisons have young fellows in them who have bashed such an evil woman.

First, she walked into the cop shop and told them she feared for her life, total lies of cause, but of cause she got the DVO which mentally effected this guy who wouldn't hurt a fly.

If cause she uses the kids as pawns all the time and makes sure that during his four days per fortnight (his visitation rights) that all the doctors, dentist and other expensive appointments are made for them, so he has to pay.

So I have little doubt there are many cases of DV which are or prevoked by eliv bitches like this one.

Of cause it would be extremely helpful if we had a system that recognized that broken relationships don't just effect mothers and their children.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 27 September 2015 6:45:28 PM
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Unfortunately Doog represents a fairly widespread mentality. One that others who claim to support equality, who claim to be opposed to DV often fail to see in their own attitudes to domestic violence against men.

Likewise unfortunately O sung wu's view represe3nt too many of the polices views.
"I don't care what the circumstances may be, if an arguing couple reach such a level of exasperation and mere words alone can't soothe their respective temper(s) - it's up to the male to simply walk away, leave the house, and in so doing allowing the 'heat' to evaporate, thus permitting all the tension and stress occasioned by the argument to subside ! If children are involved - REMEMBER THEM & THEIR WELFARE!"

Views that don't understand the complexities within the relationships and the mess that flows from often not just being able to walk. A disinterest from police, relationship counsellors, family law system etc in violence committed by women against their partners and attitudes of too many in the community like Doog means that just walking may well add to what is already an incredibly difficult situation. The male is placed in a is not only a no win situation but a brutal destruction from all directions.

Those posts demonstrate all to clearly the need for government to start speaking out clearly against all violence. To ensure that police are trained to treat both parties equally regardless of their own views of the world and paternalistic attitudes.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Sunday, 27 September 2015 7:42:50 PM
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