Sooo......what you are saying Rehctub is that if a woman lies to the police or even tries to 'take' his kids away from him, that it is ok to bash and/or kill her? With no judge and jury? Where would you draw the line here?

I never had you figured for a bloke who thought that any woman 'deserved a good bashing' if she lied, disobeyed, or generally pi##ed off her man?
Would you feel the same way if he did that to any woman who annoyed him?
What about male relatives? No problems there either?

We have a LONG way in society to go then to get rid of the DV scourge if there are blokes who still feel this way.

Yeah..since the thread began, the number of women killed in "domestic violence" incidents has risen to 66.

So far we've heard men here lamenting that blokes get killed in domestic violence incidents too - although no-one seems to be addressing this year's woeful record on women and can't tell me the 2015 figures for female violence against men...I suggest it would probably be minuscule.

rehctub gives us an example where a woman behaves badly and tops off his recount with:

"So I have little doubt there are many cases of DV which are or prevoked by eliv bitches like this one."

I have several acquaintances who have been treated abominably in the same manner by female partners....none of them harmed that partner.

So the upshot, seems to be from OLO contributors to this subject that if 60 odd women are killed in this way this year, then we should ignore that fact, jump over to female on male violence and/or blame the women for their situation and/or that they must have asked for it.

We all know males are in far more danger of being assaulted or killed by another male - the same goes for male violence towards women.

Why has this thread concentrated on female physical violence?

Good evening to you ROBERT...

Unfortunately what you say is (generally) true. Many police appear to be disinterested or disengaged, as to the many 'why's' and 'wherefores' of trying to avoid, attending DV matters ?

Ask any copper if his preferred response 'job' is one of a reported DV matter, and they'd sooner run a mile in the opposite direction ! Rather than involving themselves in such a hazardous, complicated, and impenetrable 'mess', that most DV issues represent !

I shouldn't admit this but; there's an old 'saying' in the job when certain radio messages are received, where the only option is to respond with a 'FIDO' ? 'F...IT Drive On' in other words unavailable to respond to that job ? I'll NOT enumerate the types of Jobs that coppers try to avoid at all costs, but amongst that very small list features 'Domestic Violence' ? The 'why's' are self explanatory ?

Quite seriously, coppers WILL do their duty, make no mistake about that, DV or otherwise. But to upbraid or criticize police for seemingly not handling a DV matter well, is a little unfair. Most domestic arguments 'simmer' for days, weeks, even months until finally things erupt into wholesale domestic hostilities.

And when the coppers finally arrive, they're expected to instantly mutate into a Sigmund FRAUD, and make it all go away ? In reality that simply doesn't happen, and the coppers often 'get it wrong', the real trick is to, minimise that 'wrong' ?

Domestic Violence is a real tough one to deal with, and there's no easy answers unfortunately ?

I couldn't find any recent figures, but according to the Lifeline website in 2012 1,901 males committed suicide. That's more than 5 a day. 634 females committed suicide, which is less than two per day.

So I guess we should just ignore all those female suicides, right Poirot? At least until we've wound back the much higher male suicide rate a bit. I mean, yeah, it's tragic that women are killing themselves and all that, but since there are far fewer of them killing themselves we should just forget them and focus on how we can prevent male suicides.

Or maybe we should push the tired old battle of the sexes to one side and try to stop everyone killing themselves. Or their partners. When we're talking about people's lives maybe we can just pretend that men and women are both from Earth, not Venus or Mars, and that we're all in this together.

"So I guess we should just ignore all those female suicides, right Poirot?..."

Yeah, hi Tony Lavis.

Why are you having a go at me?

For all the good fortune in our society, it seems we're still quite a brutish lot....and though this thread is about DV, it seems most here are wishing to talk about everything except the fact that 66 women have killed this year - and that it is a blight on our society.

But carry on - suicide is an ongoing tragedy - one that probably deserves its own thread and not to be plonked here as a further diversion to the discussion of the very serious situation to which Turnbull responded.

"fact that 66 women have "been" killed this year"