"No one denies a percentage of domestic violence victims are male, and they to deserve attention." Paul if they are not denying it they are using a whole range of tactics to ensure those men got no constructive attention.

- Claiming the numbers are so small as to be insignificant (You may recall ChazP's attempts on that front on this site and others have done similar)
- Just ignoring them. Note the response to my pointing out some numbers earlier
- Suggesting that we have to "solve" violence against women before we can devote resources and attention to violence facing men.
- Suggesting that it's up to men to solve that issue and is not a societal issue.

I'm not a big fan of the reuse of emotive terms and words to strengthen an argument so "intimate terrorism" does not sit all that comfortably but from my experience and that of other's who have abusive spouses I think the term is as relevant here as in the UK or USA.

I'd welcome more quantative research into "who and what" done in Australia if done outside the gender studies/feminist frameworks and which actually sought the truth. Limited amounts of that appear to have been done here and in NZ (I've linked previously to what I'm aware of) but overall there is a large volume of material covering the western world that clearly shows that when men and women are asked the same questions about their experience of receiving and perpetrating intimate partner violence show a very different pattern to that pushed by "anti-DV" spokespeople and politicians.

R0bert

otb,

"Now feel free to bounce back with your usual fembot ad hominems."

It's always hugely entertaining to see posters chide other posters for using ad hominem - by employing ad hominem to do it.

64 women killed in domestic violence incidents this year - RObert do you have the figures for men killed in domestic violence incidents in 2015?

//64 women killed in domestic violence incidents this year//

Which is probably a lot less than the number of men who have killed themselves this year. Males kill commit suicide at a far greater rate than females, but we never hear suicide being spoken about in gender terms. Instead, public health officials are worried about overall suicide rates and how they can be reduced. I think this the right approach, and I think it is the right approach to apply when dealing with domestic violence as well

Poirot not that I've seen. Nobody in the DV industry seems to care less so the figures don't seem to be available in the same way that they are regarding deaths of women. Might be sources I'm missing.
Over a long period they seem to have sat at around 25% of intimate partner homicides.

As a follow on from Tony's point there is also a massive number of male suicides where a possible link to abuse by partners never seems to make public policy discussions.

There is too much in this area that's not dealt with holistically. It's piecemeal to suit agenda's but not treated as an interconnected whole. That in my view is a significant contributor to making things worse.

In my earlier post I missed a key aspect of shutting down attention on male victims. Claiming that they are abusers with a spouse killing them to stop the abuse. Not an excuse that seems to cut it when applied in the other direction (other than with a small minority).

R0bert

RObert, I have repeated it numerous time, that domestic violence is totally unacceptable, be it perpetrated against women, children, men, the elderly the blind, whoever. In fact I deplore violence in all its forms, from premeditated murder to organised prize fighting. On the subject of DV I don't agree with those that demolish the violence against women by simply pointing and saying "well what about the violence against men!" Like if it is some kind of numbers game. Nor do I agree with people like Beach who seem to think it a feminist conspiracy, with a hidden agenda to denigrate men, the facts speak for themselves on that score, its real, its here and its growing.

phanto makes some good points about aggression (abuse). Physical violence is not the only problem in relationships, violence causing death is the extreme, but there is indeed a problem with aggressive behavior from both men and women as relationships break down. Aggression can be long term and take numerous forms, so many people experience and endure long term miserable relationships, sometimes for years, even most of their adult life, as do their children. This is all part of what is bad in our society, unfortunately there is no instant fix in sight.

The link that I gave previously stated that the
information available on the prevalence of domestic,
family and sexual violence in Australia is derived
from surveys. The 2013 Australia wide survey on
personal safety conducted by the ABS found that many
men and women experience at least one encounter
with violence in their lifetimes.

The survey showed that men are far more likely to
experience physical violence at the hands of a
stranger but women experience physical violence by
someone known to them - usually an intimate partner
or family member. Both men and women are more
likely to experience physical violence than sexual
violence = but women are more likely to experience
sexual violence in their lifetime than men.

As the Prime Minister pointed out - it is time Australia
began to tackle this problem in a more open way and
take action to find out the causes of why Australia
has a shocking record on domestic violence and
what measure can be taken to try to solve this problem.