I dont mean sneaky nasty jibes to me..Im a bit more resilient than that...not to me ,you know who Im referring to.

I wouldnt have started a thread in oppostion to the "hypocrites' thread if you hadnt been so hostile to me when I was trying to talk about it to you ,ie: pack rape, de-nutting (if u like).You were generally contemptous of me , very dismissive, and Yabby tends to follow your lead Im sad to say..so when you do that you both appear too have a 'bully' mentality..this could be news to you, but thats how its perceived by me.

When you say you defend you home ,business..I defend my friends..I think we are both strong women

Yes we did both throw around a few barbs, thats for sure..

I enjoy vigorous debate, but I think if we learn to respect other pples right to have a valid opinion that should pretty well knock this thing on the head..whaddya reckon?

And the forum is not a place for you and......y to air your dirty laundry..manners ladies.Noone cares and it disrupts some really great and important topics.Like animal welfare.

Fair enough. It is not my intention to come across as a bully, I am aware that I can seem abrupt, but I have felt the need to be on the defensive.
If you wish to revisit the whole castration thing again on the other thread let me know. I really was trying to make a valid point about another side of farming. It is even an issue I have discussed with the RSPCA.

As for your 'friend', I dont see us resolving that one. While ... is no longer posting, and not taking shots at me, I will leave it alone. It really is the organisation I have a problem with, and dont appreciate having it force fed in posts. While thats not happening, i wont have anything to say about them.

We obviously have different understanding of the word friend too. Mine dont stab me in the back. My last word on the subject:)

Pigfarmer..Im glad that we are at least now on the path to some kind of truce and I hope it lasts..

As for the definition of friend I kind of take that to mean pple who actually know me, dont get me wrong it is clear what you imlpy here...
But since not one person on this forum knows zip about the other..I kind of take with a grain salt anything that may be said in the heat of battle as an offence to my person..

I have over various posts on various threads laid out a lot of background about myself..so anything that you say you may know or anyone else knows can only have come from that...so it would be my own fault for putting it out there...?

We are all human Pigfarmer, none of us are perfect, we all may say and do things at times that we are not proud of..but that doesnt mean they are inherently flawed and to be cast aside forever..I have a forgiving nature, maybe that could be seen as a weakness , but they should also know I am not stupid either.

So whatever you know it might be best left with you and I trust your powers of discetion to just leave it best alone.

I am not your enemy Id like you to know that ..but neither am I ....s keeper and what goes down between the two of you is not my concern.

You both need to let this go, ..its become crazy.. you need to look at each other as human beings who are not perfect ,have faults,and to realize that thats ok too.
Human beings are NOT perfect thats what makes them human, you 2 can work this out without destroying each other believe me....
Let the dust settle and the anger subside..we say and do some stupid stuff in the heat of battle..

Ignore the bad and praise the good..it works with my kids and I think thats good advice here..

Forgiveness is powerful and liberating, you are both only hurting yourselves.

Robert.
It is interesting watching Car Park thread. Perhaps there is now a chance of people being able to stay on topic. I hope so.
The only thing that is a worry is i feel that you PF are saying you will not allow others to put up their views.
You base this it seems on a personal dislike of somebody.
I have watched and kept a open mind up until now.
It has been hard to keep an open mind to be honest. I have watched you attack three seperate people as soon as you felt there represented shared views on the subject, which as you know was live animal exports.
Are you saying so long as those people do not express their opostion the live exports things are fine but you will personally attack them if the resume posting.?
It is a question not a attack on you.
I for one would be very concerned if i thought that was what you meant. Every person is entiled to post not just you.
I might add without personal attacks.
Anyway Robert it is to be hoped that is the end of it.

This is supposed to be a thread for people to work out their differences away from main discussion. Rachel and I are a good example of what can be achieved I hope.

It is not a place for voyeurs.

Robert.

When are you requesting the method to be introduced regarding disruptive posters?

Do you know if other forums have anything like you have suggested.?

Do you think it might be an idea to go into other threads and tell others what the car park is about and your idea?

Well leave it to you.

I think a few posters will grow if somethings put nto place.
As you said a lot of people just read the comments and dont post.