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6 million Jews murdered by Europeans now being replaced with Muslims,is it Devine Retribution?

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Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez published the following in a Spanish newspaper on January 15, 2008…All European Life Died in Auschwitz.

I walk down the street in Barcelona and suddenly discovered a terrible truth – Europe died in Auschwitz…We killed Six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims. In Auschwitz we burned culture, thought, creativity, and talent. We destroyed the chosen people, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world. The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world. These are the people we burned. Under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we are cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who bought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride…And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition…What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.
Posted by JAYYESS, Saturday, 12 September 2015 6:24:24 PM
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Well JAYYESS, your first post on this forum sees you ranting about Muslims in a nasty way.
Do you know any or all Muslims?
How can you make such a blanket statement about all Muslims without being labeled a racist?

You are in good company though with some of our resident righty extremists on this forum, so you should feel right at home. Mind you, I doubt many of them would feel the same way as you do about the whole Jewish history/nation, so that should prove interesting at least.
Good luck.
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 12 September 2015 9:46:07 PM
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Suze, Muslims are not the problem it's their religion/faith, call it what you like.

Muslim leaders themselves can't prevent the extremists within from feeding their violent ways from within, so what chance do others want.

There is enough proof in what I say inn the number of westerners/Aussies who convert to Islam then become extremists citing hatred on anyone who does to follow them.

Muslimisum has been a huge failure wherever they have gone.

So Suze, it's about time you stop protecting this garbage and wake up and smell the roses my dear.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 12 September 2015 10:03:09 PM
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Suse
Your platitudes are exceeded by your lack of comprehension.I was not ranting, I was quoting .

Because I was quoting for the sake of discussion ,why do you presume you know my position when clearly you don't.

I note you are a serial commentor. I know you have a lot to say so the very least you should stop presuming and start improving your comprehension.
Posted by JAYYESS, Saturday, 12 September 2015 10:44:53 PM
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//is it Devine Retribution//

No. It is't even 'Divine' Retribution. God is just a fairy tale for children.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 13 September 2015 6:34:07 AM
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Jayess, the most honest estimate (Meyer 2002) claims that about 350,000 Jews died in Poland and other eastern European nations in the 1940's while another 120,000 died in combat, mainly Jewish Red Army soldiers. Add to that an estimated 1.2 million Jews who died throughout the 1930's in the collectivisation programs in the Soviet Republics and you're nudging two million. Even the most ambitious projections suggest that about a million migrants may make the journey north over the coming years, so you're not even close with your figures and the rest of your post is nonsense.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 13 September 2015 7:13:48 AM
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Re--- "Muslim leaders themselves can't prevent the extremists within from feeding their violent ways...

It is very simple, the so-called extremists have the Quran and hadith on their side. So-called moderate leaders cannot win a discussion with the radicals because the radicals are just doing what Mohammed did and what Allah commands.
Posted by kactuz, Sunday, 13 September 2015 7:50:46 AM
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Kactuz, the fundamentalists deride the "moderate" Imams as "menstrual sheikhs", a slur insinuating that they spend all their time debating female hygene rather than supporting the Jihad. You're correct of course, innovation is forbidden in Sunni Islam so there is absolutely no hope of reforming the movement, it's just never going to happen and true Mujahideen will kill the liberals and reformers, as they're doing in Iraq and elsewhere.
The Salafists are the fastest growing social movement in Germany and according to the German press they're meeting the refugee trains as they pull in at the stations and taking away unaccompanied minors and young men who have no family or friends with them. They're also taking young men away from the refugee reception centres and housing them in Mosques, Islamic schools and private homes.
Salafists will also on occasion attack and beat up Leftists, Liberals, Gays, Anti Racists and so forth if they try anything in the Muslim controlled neighbourhoods, they actually hate the Left more than groups like the NPD and PEGIDA because of their perceived "atheism" and liberal attitudes.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 13 September 2015 10:00:29 AM
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Yea, Jay, but the good news is that Saudi Arabia has announced that it will build dozens of new mosques in Germany, so that any 'moderate' Muslims that may have arrived there will have a chance to be radicalized.

We are doomed. Our leaders are fools.
Posted by kactuz, Sunday, 13 September 2015 10:53:25 AM
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JAYYESS , dear, yes you are quite right. You did give us a quote.
I assume though, as you gave the quote, that you quite liked it?

Maybe you should be more forthright and speak out for yourself in the future then, as this an opinion forum.

In any case, you can now carry on with all the other Muslim haters, and play happily together...
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 13 September 2015 11:06:32 AM
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Jayyess,

Silly suse doesn't comprehend anything. She is one of the resident motor mouth airheads, best left raving to herself.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 13 September 2015 11:25:05 AM
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Jayess - regrettably you rely on history written by the victors who gave those numbers.

In some countries it is a jailable offense to even seek out the truth about what happened in WW2, the only reason one would make laws like that would be so the truth did not come out.

Western nations so called allies committed just as many if not more atrocities than the Nazi's, even after the war in Germany.
Firebombing cities of no military value dropping A bombs on civilians just to test it out and see what the destruction was like for real.

History written by the victors is suspect.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 13 September 2015 12:41:39 PM
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Jayess - Correction whoever made the original quoted comment.
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 13 September 2015 1:47:15 PM
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Phillip S

I agree The victors of any conflict write history and there is no doubt the Allies killed civilians that were unnecessary . However you cannot say Jews were the victors when counting the dead. They knew approximately how many lived throughout Europe in 1938 before the Holocaust and in 1945 how many were left and the numbers showed there was roughly 6 million.
Posted by JAYYESS, Sunday, 13 September 2015 4:21:46 PM
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ttbn
Thank you for your tip .Being a neophite on this site I suspected so :)
Posted by JAYYESS, Sunday, 13 September 2015 4:33:23 PM
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Jayess, I believe that the 7th century should stay in the 7th century, not the first world because the mentality is stagnant. Neophyte has a “y” not an “i”.
Posted by sonofgloin, Sunday, 13 September 2015 5:27:16 PM
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JAYYESS, I would leave it a bit longer before deciding whether you agree with ttbn's views if I were you...what with being a neophyte (or maybe a reincarnation?) and all that.
Cheers,
Suse.
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 13 September 2015 5:56:13 PM
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sonofgloin,
I realised after I posted. Thank you anyway.
Posted by JAYYESS, Sunday, 13 September 2015 6:30:35 PM
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Oh dear,

Really?

This thing has been kicking around for nearly a decade and been completely debunked as a hoax.

Don't believe me? Go find one other bit of writing from this bloke. Better still why don't you post a link to his picture.

I would welcome you JAYESS but I suspect you have trodden the halls of this forum before.

Further I'm pretty sure you were aware that this piece was bogus which makes Suseonline's assessment of you and your motives pretty spot on.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 13 September 2015 7:32:05 PM
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No, it's not divine retribution.

It is just that humans are territorial
And they will kill over it and try to overrun it or take it at the point of a gun.

If there was divine retribution, then where is the retribution
For the 14million Chinese killed in 1937-1939
By the Japanese. Twice as many as the Jews.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 13 September 2015 9:22:13 PM
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It is not divine retribution,

It is just the stupidity of the Europeans
Who let all these hostile races into their countries,
Believing the hippy mantra of a new world order
Of love and peace.

It didn't work the first time when murder and
Violence broke out in the hippy love communities.

And it is becoming blatantly obvious that the love
And peace idea of multiculturalism doesn't work either
As Europe becomes like Ireland was. With terrorist(territorial)
Attacks on its home territory.

It is a failure of our education system that teaches
This flawed hippy ideology. That has no factual basis in
the biological behaviour of the human species.
Shame on our schools and Univerities that teach ideology
And not fact.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 13 September 2015 9:35:09 PM
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Thank you Jay of M. "Jayess, the most honest estimate (Meyer 2002) claims that about 350,000 Jews died in Poland and other eastern European nations in the 1940's while another 120,000 died in combat, mainly Jewish Red Army soldiers. Add to that an estimated 1.2 million Jews who died throughout the 1930's in the collectivisation programs in the Soviet Republics and you're nudging two million."
Also Philip for mentioning the embargo on truth.
It's worth remembering that the major cause of death in internment camps was cholera and starvation [as it was in much of the rest of the population], because the allies refused to allow shipments of food and medication to be sent in by the Swiss. And allied bombs killed many in some camps.
Ah, the vileness of refusing to permit the truth to be told...because if is was, then much support for a certain eastern Mediterranean country might evaporate.
Suse, you have a perceptive mind.
Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 14 September 2015 8:22:11 AM
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I suggest you look at nationalities who have received the "Peace Prize" and leaders in science, Medicine, philosophy, art and literature in the last 100 years. Very few Muslims from the Middle East, they are the death of culture and social advancement of the world.
Posted by Josephus, Monday, 14 September 2015 9:12:39 AM
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SteeleRedux & CHERFUL

SteeleRedux,
Congratulatins, you win 1st prize for being a active googler to identify an article purporting to be written by someone who doesn't exist. having said that those words have been written and so it really doesn't matter who wrote it the facts are its there for all to see, The real issue is does it resonate with the facts that "Europe traded in Jews for Muslims" and are they better of with their new found citizens, thats the issue the reality of our time, not the hypothetics who wrote it.

CHERFUL
Ok its not devine retribution. obviously your not religious so that idea would not be for you. Personally I agree with you. Thats where i stop agreeing for the following reasons.
Your comparison of genocides between Chinese and Jews are not in the same currency. For that matter most genocides in Africa Asia America, do not equate as they all were about territory and booty as you rightly said. All these adveturism were limited by their success and once succeeded they ended. What territory did Jews have in Europe. None. They were murdered because they were Jews in all of Europe regardless of whose citizens they were. Murdering Jews in Europe has been the Continents common sporting event for 2000 years culminating with the Holocaust as the final act of a long drawn out persecution of a group of people who's only crime was being Jews. Your example of Chinese killed is now over. Jews getting Murdered is continuing to this day.
Posted by JAYYESS, Monday, 14 September 2015 10:09:35 AM
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Dear JAYESS,

You wrote;

“facts are its there for all to see”

The piece does not mention any facts, just opinions. It is ignorant of history and it is designed to incite hatred.

The prime parallel here is with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It too was fabricated and also designed to incite hatred. I have met people who still quote from it. When I point out its true origins they make a similar statement as yours “those words have been written and so it really doesn't matter who wrote it”.

It will be propaganda hoaxes like this one which if not forcefully challenged may one day God forbid cause fresh ovens to be built in Europe and you sir will have contributed to a fresh horror.

Why don't you take your poison elsewhere.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 14 September 2015 11:23:21 AM
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//the facts are its there for all to see//

Oh dear. Can't tell the difference between facts and opinions, JAYYESS?

A fact is something which is known or proven to be true.

An opinion is a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

Try to learn the difference.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 14 September 2015 11:38:44 AM
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Jayyess..."All these adveturism(sic) were limited by their success and once succeeded they ended. What territory did Jews have in Europe. None. They were murdered because they were Jews in all of Europe regardless of whose citizens they were."
"They hated me without a cause."—John 15:25. [probably referring to 35th Psalm where David says.....neither let them wink with the eye that hate me without a cause."] is one of the silliest phrases in the bible. There is always a cause, and the most usual one when referring to the perennial unpopularity of the Jews, is that they see themselves as Jews first and last. They almost never integrate into the societies in which they live, preferring to remain an exclusive group, bound by religious rules that take precedence over merely civic ones. Also, thanks to the Christian ban on usury, they became the money-lenders, and thence the bankers of the world...and therefore very unpopular. Exclusive societies that are blatant about what they consider to be their innate, god-given superiority over the rest of humanity, can not expect to be loved - as the USA is discovering.
Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 14 September 2015 12:54:25 PM
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JAYESS

The reason the Germans finally turned on
The Jews was economic failure of the German Country.

It started after the Great Depression in the early 1930's

6million Germans were thrown out of jobs when the industries
Shut down in the Great Depression.

In the years that followed, Germans would stand outside Jewish shops and businesses
Refusing to let anyone in. Thus forcing people to shop in
The white German shops.

Gradually the Jews were put out of work in favour of German employees
That included well educated Jews, teachers, lawyers etc.

Finally the Germans voted Hitler into power because he said he would deal with the
Jewish problem and return Germany to the Fatherland, which to the Germans meant
A Germany without the Jews.
In other words total economic control of The German territory would be returned to the
Germans.

When the Romans had control in Germany in earlier centuries, one of the Roman
Commanders wrote in one of his reports.
"Fights would break out between the Jews and the Germans in the towns
But it was never over religion it was always over money

The land we live in provides our economic wealth.
Hence the massacre of the Jews by the Germans when there was
Not enough territorial wealth to go around.
It was territorial as all wars and conflicts are if you dig
Beneath the surface.
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 14 September 2015 2:56:07 PM
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Well Cheerful, if you replace jews with moslems in your last post you
might well be able to forecast the future.
As Germany enters recession in the next month or two you will see the
unemployment figures rise and Germany for the Germans will again be
heard in the land.
There will be a difference, the moslems are intent on a takeover of
Europe and it will be a different conflict. The jews did not form
armed groups, but already Greece has found a container of migrant
assistance supplies with weapons, rifles, in the container.
There has of course already been low level skirmishes.

I suspect we will see the outbreak in urban warfare before the year is out.
Remind me if I am wrong.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 14 September 2015 4:54:25 PM
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Bazz that story about the container load of weapons which did the rounds on Facebook at the weekend was misreported.
The Turkish company who owned the guns claims it was a legal shipment of riot control equipment bound for the government of Sudan, the Greek coast guard didn't believe them and ordered the ship to dock in Crete as they suspected the weapons were actually bound for Libya.
Your point about the Jews in Germany being non violent is also only half right, Jews controlled the Communist gangs who were attempting to take over Germany in the 1920's and they were well armed and extremely violent. There were pitched battles between NSDAP and Communist street gangs in which firearms were used and hundreds of people were killed and many more seriously hurt. When the NSDAP took power the SA went on a rampage, set up private prisons and detention camps and went about taking their revenge on the Communists. Most of the Jewish Communist leadership fled the country, either allying themselves with the Soviet Union or escaping to the West and the ad-hoc detention centres were closed down when Dachau was opened and the prisoners transferred to the custody of the SS.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 14 September 2015 7:19:08 PM
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Watching Steven Corbert Monday September 14, Writer Steven King was a guest. Seven Corbert asked a question, Steven king replied, "like the catholic church, you get them while they're young you get them for life". I have heard the phrase before.

How humans act is not always humans societies fault. Leaders use religion to manipulate societies. Babies having little more than learning behaviours are guided into how as adults, act. If to aid getting rib of many religious driven terrorists, merely convince all religious societies there is no afterlife heaven.

The achievements of Jewish people may have more to do with educational mental stress repression of non-Jewish people.
I continually try to convince people government certified education is designed to educate students into keep themselves dumb. What happens is that people don't want to know, therefore proving they're keeping themselves dumb.

Problem is not each races behaviour. The problem is that each race leaders want to divide human race cultures, allowing leadership manipulation.

Western women wear very little clothing on beaches, while many Muslim women are dressed to their eye balls. Cultures are angry at each other for their religious beliefs. Races and religious sects are played against each other for reasons of political control.

Populations become over extended, waring races rebalance populations.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 1:01:30 PM
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Sticking to Education, Nasi education devoted to a German pure race and the persecution Jews, programmed teenagers, gown into adult soldiers by WW2 began. To blame anyone, blame 1930's German democracy and a generation of easily influenced German population, living at the time. Blame the democratic process and a poor believe what your told education system.
Posted by steve101, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 1:13:56 PM
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JAYYESS,

More Zionist propaganda hey? You're crediting Jews for civilisation? The biggest controllers and propagandiststs in the West. Liar. Sorry they're soon not going to be controlling white history anymore.

9/11, JFK Assassination, Holocaust Debated at US University
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/04/27/ac-free/

http://zioncrimefactory.com/the-six-million-myth/

http://www.johndenugent.com/holocaust-deprogramming/

SIX MILLION JEWS 1915-1938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=343&v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2009/12/a-review-of-norman-finkelsteins-the-holocaust-industry/

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/24/opinion/l-irish-potato-famine-didn-t-just-happen-487995.html

Chris Fogarty - The Irish Holocaust
http://www.redicemembers.com/secure/radio/program.php?id=952

5.2 million (conservative figure) death toll of Irish Holocaust.

Irish Holocaust (no famine) backed by Rothschilds for Oliver Cromwell’s invasion
http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/the-solar-storm-chris-fogarty-6-28-15/
Posted by Constance, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 3:32:26 PM
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http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php/en.wikipedia.org/article.php?id=34018
Commemorating British Casualties of Jewish Terrorism, 1944–1948
Normally, a gathering of British nationalists in central London, proudly bearing English banners and Union Flags, would be met with a horde of screaming demonstrators bussed in from far and wide. But no disturbance took place last weekend when such a group of patriots assembled near Trafalgar Square and the reason is not hard to discern. Cont… on site
Posted by Constance, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 3:34:11 PM
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The 'Refugee' Crisis and the Creation of Greater Israel
http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=34193 (see the maps)
It has become increasingly obvious that the flood of refugees from the Middle East is serving the jewish agenda of creating Greater Israel (Eretz Israel). In case you are unfamiliar with the concept, Greater Israel is the vast tract of land supposedly promised to the Israelites by Yahweh, stretching from the Nile to the Euphrates.

Greater Israel is far larger than the current state of Israel, and since their current colonization efforts are being hotly contested, drastic events are needed to be able to roll over the indigenous Semites (Arabs) and install a new state.

ISIS, which previously stood for the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service (aka the Mossad), has already conquered a decent chunk of Greater Israel.

ISIS is receiving funding, aid, weapons, training, and recruits from the United States, Great Britain, Saudi Arabia, and Israel. Although there are some sensational stories coming out of the jewish press about an ISIS holocaust, the Islamic State has never had any intentions of attacking the jewish State. In fact, the military conflicts taking place in the Middle East, and in particular Syria, are all wrapped up in the plot to massively expand the boundaries of Israel. Saudi Arabia, which was founded by jews and is where Wahhabi ISIS originates, is already locked up, and Egypt has recently fallen into line, so only a few more loose ends need to be tied up.

>>>>>>
http://www.shoah.org.uk/2012/08/19/saudi-royal-family-is-jewish-king-and-prince-are-all-jew/

Turkish Ataturk was a Pharisee who founded secular Turkey – get it?
http://www.central-mosque.com/index.php/History/mustafa-kemal-atatuerk-jew-muslim-or-non-muslim.html
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?82652-Mustafa-Kemal-Atat%FCrk-was-Jewish-and-gay

The founder of Shia Islam was a secret (Crypto) Pharisee – get it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_ibn_Saba%27
http://www.shia.bs/series/the-founder-of-the-shia-sect-is-abdullah-bin-saba-al-yahudi.cfm

Catholics Unveiled Masonic Jewish Plot in 1936 (Encore)
http://www.henrymakow.com/jewish_peril.html
Copy of original article
http://www.watch.pair.com/catholic-gazette-b%27nai-b%27rith.pdf
Freemason plan of infiltration of the CC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alta_Vendita
Posted by Constance, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 3:35:07 PM
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Ok.......JAYYESS, I did warn you.
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 17 September 2015 1:33:42 AM
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Constance,
A great Hoax!
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 17 September 2015 8:48:23 AM
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