STEELEREDUX...

Interestingly, though I don't share too many issues with PAUL1405, we can agree to disagree. Unlike you my friend, a substantiated 'know all' !

You assert JAY OF MELBOURNE 'backed away' from my commentary ? Probably because he disagrees with me, as is his right.

You (again) assert (in part) '...my antipathy towards Muslims at...' No, I harbour no particular animosity, hostility or animus towards Muslims at all - I simply DON'T trust them ! I have enormous suspicion, or scepticism towards Muslims, both for their (sic) 'religion' and their ultimate aims towards the West in toto !

In fact in my view, they're more of a political or militant organisation, than a bona fide religion ? Their agenda is to exterminate all infidels and convert the world into Sharia State, with a few crazy Imams dictating life or death over the masses ! And you support them you ignoramus !

My vision of the infant in question was sufficiently clear, to view any remaining detritus (or the absence thereof), emanating from his mouth or nasal cavities. His facial colour was sufficiently indistinct as to fraught any attempt to see whether his face was congested, the effects of asphyxia occasioned through smothering. Merely a thought, and all part of the res gestae ? A theory is all ?

Still one mustn't dare have an opinion, if contrary to those held by his eminence, the pretentious luminary, and Grand Mufti, STEELEREDUX the wisest fool in Christendom, opps sorry, Mecca !

Finally, my essential caveat to that, which has aroused my initial suspicions in this matter, are contained in my two previous piece(s) both written on; 12Sept last, and both contained in the last paragraph. Had you managed to read them, you would've seen it.

A question if I may ? Is there any topic within heaven or earth that you don't have a claim to know everything ? Perhaps there's a couple :- Humility and modesty ? Neither are part of your vocabulary, are they my little man !

The Arab Press has a few strong words about the problems of the Arab world in general and the current crisis:

"We too could be like them and our countries could be like their countries, which do not persecute the citizens and do open their arms to the victims of natural and political disasters. Yes, we could be like them if we thoroughly examined our barbaric political regime, our backwards social order, our obsolete curricula, our media that operates without professional norms, and our religious establishment that interprets the texts in a barbaric fashion, inciting to hatred and to abuse of the other, even members of the Islamic faith! This situation clearly mandates a velvet revolution that the educated [sector] must launch." (Adnan Hussein, Iraq)
https://reason.com/archives/2015/09/12/the-arab-press-reacts-to-the-european-re

Note the harsh words about a barbaric text used to incite hatred of others. That is what these people are bringing to the West.

But nothing will change. This is one more silent voice of reason within the Muslim world, but it will make no difference. There will be no reform or revolution, just more hate and violence done in the name of Allah according to the example of Mohammed.

Dear o sung wu,

No this was not res gestae. You examined a 'piece of evidence', made much of your credentials to be able to past judgement (albeit with a small qualification) and proceeded to inform us of your conclusion that suffocation was a distinct possibility.

You claimed;

“My vision of the infant in question was sufficiently clear, to view any remaining detritus (or the absence thereof), emanating from his mouth or nasal cavities.”

No it patently was not and for you to continue claiming such is an indictment in itself.

The rest of your post is the usual clap trap you retreat to when your are cornered.

Time to put this to rest mate.

As to attacking Kactuz what I did was take two direct admissions from him and put the case he was a psychopath. Do I think he really is psychopathic? No. But it was an exercise illustrating that he took far less evidence to conclude Mr Kurdi was 'Scum' and for you to conclude he could possibly be a murderer.

!0,000 fake Syrian passports were seized in one raid in Germany in august, the person apprehended with the forged documents was a "refugee"under investigation for ties to Islamic state.
http://newobserveronline.com/isis-terrorist-arrested-in-stuttgart-refugee-center-boxes-of-fake-syrian-passports-intercepted/
A joint German-Bulgarian operation also seized another 10,000 fake Syrian identity cards which had originated in Turkey:
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/fluechtlinge-der-handel-mit-syrischen-paessen-blueht/12290592.html

STEELEREDUX...

I have no answer for you. It would seem if anyone dare publish an opinion that you dislike you arbitrarily smother any and all commentary associated with that opinion. I say I viewed sufficient portions of that infants face, to form an opinion - and you say I didn't ? You now seek to lecture me on the meaning of res gestae, a basic doctrine of required learning, quite early in one's recruit training ?

Often described to recruits for a better understanding, as 'the yolk surrounded by the egg white'. Or the official (examinable) definition '...a fact may be relevant to a matter in issue because it throws light on it by reason of either time, place or circumstance, because it's part of the doctrine of res gestae...'. If this definition is insufficient for you, then I can't help you.

You find it really infuriating don't you when others herein comment on your overt hubristic arrogance, the like of which I've yet to encounter ever ! I used to find your contumelious behaviour, quite amusing, you were a figure of derision and fun, as such I enjoyed rattling your cage ?

But now STEELEREDUX, I've reviewed that opinion appreciable ? For now I strongly believe you're manifestly unwell, a classic McNaghten's Rule candidate. You clearly suffer from some 'delusion of grandeur' or something. You can't allow anyone to contradict ANYTHING you say, as you interpret it as challenging the lofty opinion you have of yourself.

To be honest I'd never wish to spend a night under your roof, even for a single night. A simple disagreement could lead, to who knows what ? You're one very very sick puppy STEELEREDUX ! Of that I have no doubt.

Dear o sung wu,

Lol.

Now that's better, a few tried and true o sung wu-isms to warm the heart.

I must say though as a recruit you must have been rather inattentive.

To assert the slightest of glimpses of a drowned victim's face in a 72DPI internet image by a retired detective sitting in his lounge room over half the world away constitutes res gestae is bonkers. There is nothing immediate about it. This is not the 'yolk' nor the 'egg white', it's not the shell nor even the chicken, it's not the hen house nor the farmyard nor even the state and any judge would have it tossed immediately.

I have no problem with accepting other's opinions. However yours was given with a rather unseemly agenda attached. It was that to which I took exception.

However I do feel your banter has been of service on many occasions which is why I value it. The number of unseemly and obnoxious threads we have managed to stupefy into submission via our exchanges does the both of us great credit so thank you.