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Is Australia Ready to Become a Police State?

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The last few pages have illustrated how to make fools of yourselves.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 4:33:06 PM
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If anyone wants to se a Fascist manifesto just check the Greens' website.
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 7:58:17 PM
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"If Police State means deporting potential terrorist then let it be a Police State. Those who object are free to leave...."

Wow! - runner....great to know you're in favour of totalitarian regimes.

You're exactly the type of ignorant chump the Abbott govt has cooked up its terror hysteria to influence.

"The new law enforcement agency that came controversially to public attention on Friday, the Australian Border Force, is building a 5000 to 6000-strong body of officers, most trained for use-of-force operations.

Several thousand are already trained to use guns, and eventually the agency will have about twice as many weapons-ready officers as in the agencies it replaced, according to a senior official."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-border-force-to-have-up-to-6000-officers-most-trained-in-use-of-force-20150831-gjc0tx.html#ixzz3kTr1tt68

New paramilitary wing of the govt - nice little private army Abbott's putting together.

What a dangerous little man he is - no criticism from otb, of course - who doesn't recognise an extremist when he sees one.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 8:21:42 PM
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ttbn,

"....Even after you have heard (assuming you actually listen to anyone else) that the whole thing was caused by a poorly worded press release, inflated by a bunch of moronic feral demonstrators..."

Poorly worded press release...Lol!

It doesn't matter what sort of debacle this govt constructs - and this one had sinister overtones - we can always depend on it to attempt to weasel out of it using weasel words.

This press release was carefully constructed - and went to the minister's office "twice". I quotes the most senior ABF officer in Victoria - quotes him!

"“ABF officers will be positioned at various locations around the CBD speaking with any individual we cross paths with,” Mr Smith said.

“You need to be aware of the conditions of your visa; if you commit visa fraud you should know it’s only a matter of time before you’re caught out.”"

The message was deliberate and couldn't have been any clearer...how is that poorly worded?

http://newsroom.border.gov.au/releases/abf-joining-inter-agency-outfit-to-target-crime-in-melbourne-cbd

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Robert LePage,

I find I don't get into scraps on twitter - if someone wants to troll or argue unreasonably, I simply block them and they are no longer visible on my twitter feed.

But yes - the minute journalists alerted tweeters to the ABF's plans for Melbourne, twitter went into overdrive. There's nothing like it for sharing information.

L-Plate fascism finds it difficult to get a foothold in the modern world of social media exchange.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 9:32:23 PM
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What is a little bit strange to me is exactly what kind of papers would they would be asking for anyway?

I am not aware say that "Permanent/Temporary Residents" are required to carry their passports. Is it any different for tourists or students?

And Immigration no longer verify peoples' credentials by a piece of paper in their passport anyway. You can still pay extra to have a piece of paper in your passport but that is no longer required. The system is now all online.

Perhaps they had a known list of individuals who had overstayed or otherwise contravened their visa conditions and they were just trying to nab known offenders by identifying them by some other piece of id.
Posted by DreamOn, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 10:00:48 PM
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Of course runner is in favour of authoritarianism and totalitarianism.
He subjugates himself to and worships the biggest authoritarian there is.

Do what I say or I will give you eternal damnation. Thats the voice of an authoritarian tyrant and a bullying blackmailer.
Thats who runner and his ilk bow down to and follow. Thats why he is so quick to profess his love for a police state.

I wonder if he would be so keen on a secular police state like pol pot, the ussr or nth korea?

Nah. runner wants a theocratic police state.
Christian sharia law.

Bring back the inquisition hey runner. A few burnings at the stake maybe. Chop a few hands off. Or is that too basic for you lot? I know you like your medieval torture implements. The rack and those iron maiden thingys.
Maybe a few witch dunkings. That would be good christian fun wouldnt it.
Youve already started reviving the crusades and your "mates" the jews are doing there best on the armageddon front.
So maybe all hope isnt lost runsie.

But I wouldnt bet on it. :)
Posted by mikk, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 10:15:03 PM
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