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Is Australia Ready to Become a Police State?

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Hi Poirot,

Yes, hyperbowl sure is fun.

You claim that Abbott is behind all these fascist Gestapo tactics of stopping people on the streets for nothing: I'm surprised you didn't see the CIA connection ? That it's the Yanks behind Abbott behind Quadvliet behind this idiot junior clerk who knocked up this stupid notion ? You're getting soft, Poirot :)

And ask yourself, who's really behind the CIA ? Truly ruly ? Which raises the burning question: where's Arjay ?

Obviously Abbott has made a grievous mistake: in putting into place this fascist policy, (1) he neglected to take direct control of all media outlets first, to prevent anybody raising any objections to it; and (2) he didn't mobilise all his supporters out there to form thuggish militias in order to help the fascist police of the ABF and that other fascist, Andrews.

So what's been the bottom line ? Nothing's happened. We all walk the streets free.

I wonder if the citizens of Mosul could say the same. Now THAT's fascism.

Cheers,

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 3 September 2015 9:29:36 AM
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Poirot, it's a bit like one of those snappy black uniforms coming up to a students face and saying, in a rather loud voice, at point blank range "We have WAYZ and MEANZ of making you COOPERATE! The student replies "Now sir, let me point out the legal ramifications of all this for you." "RAMIFICATIONS, RAM-I-FCATIONS! I will ram the fications up your ###!" "Sorry sir, in that case sir, here is my passport, birth certificate, library card and my entire collection of Batman thingies. hope they help"
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 3 September 2015 9:35:54 AM
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Yeah, Loudmouth,

Fancy if we had a PM who day after day, week after week,, positioned himself next to flags and uniforms, shrieked incessantly about "death cults" in some wanna-be attempt to present himself as the leader who's gonna protect his people from all those foreign beasties fighting thousands of miles away.

Just because his stupid shenanigans turned out be half-arsed attempts at priming us to accept his stupid no-policy agenda, doesn't mean we shouldn't recognise them for what they are...the ridiculous machinations of a lying scoundrel who, once his IPA agenda was shot down in flames, had nothing else to offer but flags, fear and uniforms.

Did you catch this latest quarter's growth figures?...0.2% (Greece had 0.8%)...and the only reason we didn't flatline with no growth at all is because of the govt's ramped up defence spending.

"Was it felicitous timing or a happy coincidence?

A surprise 41.5 per cent jump in government spending on defence equipment helped Australia's economy grow by 0.2 per cent for the three months to June."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/abbott-government-spending-on-defence-equipment-keeps-economy-growing-20150902-gjdgdw.html
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:02:24 AM
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As at last Friday, 28 August 2015, gross government debt was $384.7 billion – the highest level ever recorded. This represents an increase of $111 billion from the level inherited by the Abbott government in September 2013. It is just as well Treasurer Joe Hockey scrapped the debt ceiling legislation early in the Abbott government’s term because he would now be having to introduce legislation to have the ceiling raised beyond $400 billion, a figure that will be exceeded before year end.
All of which makes a mockery of the Coalition’s claims of reducing debt and deficit. It has failed dismally. Or that the level of government debt is at emergency levels and is a disaster for our economy.
We seldom hear those rhetorical flourishes from Mr Abbott or Mr Hockey now days as they know that under their stewardship, debt is certain to exceed $425 billion when the election is called in the second half of 2016 – it might even be $450 billion is the government keeps spending like a drunken sailor and does nothing on the revenue side to pay for it.
Posted by doog, Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:13:24 AM
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Doog,

Thanks for yet another hare brained conspiracy theory from the far side.

Paul,

Your go to point is to refer to the Nazi's at the first opportunity. This flight of fancy is far from your first and unlikely to be your last.

Poirot,

Even when you cut and paste a comment from the description of what the ABF will be doing together with a comment from the end you still spectacularly fail to show that the ABF was proposing to stop people and ask for their visas.

Using your logic:

You don't like black? That's racist of you.

What would you prefer? Brown like the Nazis, Red like the NKVD, Green like the KGB. Pick one.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:28:42 AM
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@DreamOn, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 12:20:49 PM

Thank you for your reply. I hope I have got back to you before that deserved beach vacation.

Yes employers should be required to check ID and so on but it is very much like rental housing, where the unscrupulous who are very likely ethnic themselves take advantage of the (self-imposed) vulnerability of Visa overstayers and those who just want to fade into the population. By way of example, friends who are travelling rented their home to a early forties couple who had teamed up to come to Australia. It later transpired that the couple were sub-letting rooms with multiple bunks and sleeping bags everywhere. Even double-dipping with their lodgers, the beds were never cold. Yes, they had other money-making action going too.

Australians are like innocents abroad. We are so trusting, poorly informed on risks and we don't like to offend by asking for basic documentation. References don't matter any more, documentation is easily concocted, the risk management has to be proactive and practical. The couple mentioned before showed higher study/research grants, all half-truths or bogus. Foreign nationals, they had pulled the same stunts before here and in other countries with various success. Once again they managed to pull the wool over the eyes of Immigration, trusting businesses, helpful members of the public and ATO. -They usually worked as individuals, are very professional at what they do and make very good use of migrant and other advocacy services to check for opportunities. They have damn good stories and make astute use of the Net as a learning network. Any opportunities and lapses by authorities in a country like Australia are on the native drums fast and the response is immediate.

When it comes down to it, authorities depend mainly on citizen-reporting of suspected Visa abusers and on luck through picking them up through a sweep. Only the 'L' Plate fraudsters are at risk of being caught by police.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 3 September 2015 10:35:34 AM
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