Foxy,
You said, "The situation in
Rotherham is more than just an issue based on race alone.
That has been clearly stated by experts familiar with
the area and the cases involved"

It may surprise, but I agree with that statement. (take note Suse)

The Rotherham report and the documentary by Peter McLoughlin both clearly show it is not a race issue. Sihk and Hindu girls were coerced as well as anglo girls. The reason more anglo girls were targeted is simply because more are in the community

But it is very much a religious issue because the perpetrators were muslim. No muslim girls were involved. As I said in a previous post, the muslim men see non muslim females as whores, so have no quarms about exploiting them.

Islam is an ideology not a race.

Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 31 August 2015 10:00:00 PM

" ... Dream on, oh no you don't, ... "

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. What is it that you think I am trying to get away with?

..

I heard Abbott speak today and he made a comment re: I.S.I.L. that their behavior is reminiscent of "medieval horror" with the be headings, crucifixions, sex slavery etc.

And one of the commentators on QA last re a different subject mentioned some of the characteristics of a medieval society and upon hearing that I thought, yes, those places where I have lived among the conservative Islamic people of East Indonesia do practice a way of "village life" that certainly has aspects in common with the way our society was during medieval times.

So, suffice to say, that they have a very different point of view and I cannot stress how important that I believe that it is for us in diplomacy or other dealings, to really come to terms with the way in which the other side views things.

And for sure, it is true in my experience that some of the cultural practices are very strange and alien to us. And to say that they have different values would be an understatement.

I believe that from outset of multiculturism in this country that the challenges that these different ways and values can present was to some degree understood. However, what it comes down to is that when you first take in people from completely different backgrounds that you must spend the time and money upon arrival, ie a migrant education program to teach them of how things are here.

And to cut a long story short, whilst this has improved in recent times, the quality of the orientation programs that I have witnessed here by way of my wife's participation in these programs and education facilities relative to the orientation program that I received when I first arrived in Japan as an international student are absolutely sh!tful.

And for that, I blame the miserable penny pinching main stream politicians who did not fund these programs to educate these people appropriately.

And in that regard, there is obviously a very real danger that these people will behave according to what they have been brought up to believe is appropriate.

So, I would agree that multiculturalism can be a very dangerous thing if not handled appropriately, however, conversely the fruits of a well managed program are without a doubt immense.

It is also true I believe that in among the immigrant group, there are those that are every bit as fanatical as some of the posters here, only that the immigrants obviously are coming from a very different background.

But the underpinning problem of zealots is the same nonetheless.

Oh dear Banjo, you really at this again? Probably about time you got a new skin for that drum.

Okay you sad little fellow, what evidence do you have that what happened in Rotherham has happened in any form here in Australia?

What occurred there was a failure of law enforcement and from a cursory reading PC gone wrong. But to label the whole Muslim fraternity with the sins of the few is idiotic unless you accept the following;

“Now a US study has found that sex offenders from Australia are a big part of the problem in Thailand. A report from the Protection Project at Johns Hopkins University found that sex offenders from Australia topped the list of foreigners involved in child sex tourism in Thailand.”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-09-26/financial-crisis-driving-child-sex-tourism/1443692

Following from that surely it is in the best interests of the Thai government to ban Australian tourists from their country in order to protect their children from abuse.

Do you agree?

Foxy,

You will have to point out to me where I have excused outrages committed by my own sex - white only of course. It seems to have slipped my mind. Unless, of course you have decided that the only way you can score a point is to go right away from rape, which was the outrage I was talking about, to some other outrage that has nothing to with the thread. Would that be your "logic"

Ttbn, Foxy has left this thread, or didn't you read that?

I am sure she, and myself, should be forgiven for thinking that you, Runner, JOM and Banjo seem to believe that white Christian men can do no wrong, and that all dark-skinned 'foreigners', particularly those of Muslim religion, are the spawn of the devil?
(I'm not sure where Aboriginal men stand in all this evil....because they aren't foreign?).

And somehow, feminists are the also the cause of all these multicultural problems....oh yes, and they need to be Labour supporters too....

In any case, Foxy is right, there is no telling you bright sparks anything at all.